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Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:23 pm

As if I didn't have enough problems, the motor is stuck on my Super C. We put on a 12 volt battery and it wouldn't budge. Tried again a couple minutes later and it spun the fan a 1/4 turn then stopped. Waited a few minutes and tried again, but it wouldn't turn over. We poured some oil down each cylinder and will try again.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby raystractors » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:43 am

Pull the starter off and look inside. I had one that did the same thing, and it was caused by an animal nest inside by the flywheel. All covers were in place so i'm not sure how they can get in but they do.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:55 am

raystractors wrote:Pull the starter off and look inside. I had one that did the same thing, and it was caused by an animal nest inside by the flywheel. All covers were in place so i'm not sure how they can get in but they do.



Hey thanks for that information. That didn't even occur to me. I'll do just that and report back.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby tst » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:42 pm

careful forcing it, I have found the pushrods can bend on those, you may want to pull the rocker arm loose so they do not get bent

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:26 pm

tst, thank you for your input. I can use all the help and advice I can get.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:33 pm

I'll tell you what, if she don't turn over pretty soon, Ima gonna park a green one next to it. I think that ought to scare its insides loose.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:47 pm

Hairy Moose Knuckles wrote:. . . it spun the fan a 1/4 turn then stopped.

This is not the behavior of a truly "stuck" engine. Remove the starter then see if it will turn with the crank. If not, stick a pry bar through the starter hole and into a ring gear tooth on the flywheel. Try to move it a bit backwards (pry the visible part of the flywheel down). If it moves at all, start looking for whatever is causing the bind. If is doesn't move, you need to dig deeper for the problem.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:56 pm

Thank you Jim! I'll try that tomorrow

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:38 pm

Took starter off.

1. No rats nest, but did find a small dirt dauber nest. Cleaned it and made sure starter was working.

2. Tried prying flywheel, but it wouldn't move in either direction.

3. Not related, but I took off valve cover and it was nice and oily in there.
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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:34 pm

I assume I need to pull the head. I'm going into uncharted territory and will need your guidance.

I used to wrench on my old car back in the day, but it's been a real long time.

Looks like I need to remove the Carb, manifold, and water pump.

1. I assume the the rocker assembly above only has 2 bolts correct? When I remove those it will lift off. Is that correct?

2. Do the push rods need to be kept in order? If so, is there anything else that needs to be done. So I can get it back together?


Anyone here willing to be my mentor? You guide me and I'll post what's done with pictures.

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby tst » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:10 pm

you can leave the manifold and carb on the head unless you want to make it lighter, water pump is in the block, not the head, just has a bypass hose to connect them, keep the push rods in order is a good practice, they are adjustable also

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Re: Stuck Motor

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:12 am

My brother reminded me of something last night. He and I tried to pull start it in the summer of 2013 and it turned over, but we couldn't start it. It was in gear when we tried.

So I know it was not stuck at that time.


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