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Farmall C, Super C Tractors, 200 & 230 1948-1958
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super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:51 pm

I have took the radiator off an the govner housing what do I need to look at to see if it needs replaced

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Re: super c govner

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:41 pm

You didn't need to take the radiator off. The governor can be removed without doing that. It's not easy but also not the most difficult thing either.

Why did you take the governor off? Depending on what's wrong, you may replace one thing or another.

All you can really replace is the thrust washer and the spring, though.

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Re: super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:56 pm

I have ordered a new one bc I have a new carb on it an it's not turning enough rpms it bogs down when pto is engaged with 5 ft. Pull bush hog

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Re: super c govner

Postby Matt Kirsch » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:47 pm

A whole new governor? That had to be expensive.

There isn't much to the governor, and they're rarely worn so badly that they're causing a problem About the only things that wear out are the spring and the thrust washer.

If the spring is no good, it won't rev up.
If the thrust washer is no good, it won't idle down.

There are also other factors that can cause the engine to not want to rev up or respond to the governor, such as carburetor adjustments, ignition timing, faulty/worn ignition parts...

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Re: super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:51 pm

Wee govner was ab 90 bucks I got it in gonna do some painting an see then fire her off does the main pull have some kinda mark on it for timing like the cubs do ?

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Re: super c govner

Postby havoc1482 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:19 pm

Timing is the same as cubs, but the flywheel doesn't have a mark on it. Gotta find TDC on the compression stroke in Cylinder #1 and work from there.
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Re: super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:24 pm

Could the timing be off to the point it bogs under load?

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Re: super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:38 pm

Tdc on number one cylinder would be near radiator

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Re: super c govner

Postby havoc1482 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:19 pm

Cylinders go 1 2 3 4. 1 is closest to the radiator, 4 is next to the gas tank. Finding TDC on compression is easy. Take the spark plug out and hand crank (if you can) the engine with your finger in the spark plug hole. When you feel air rush past your finger it means you are at the compression stroke (both valves closed). use a flashlight and peak in and slowly rotate the crank until you see the cylinder top out.
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Re: super c govner

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:23 am

Yup, there's no mark on the front pulley, but SUPPOSEDLY there is a mark on the flywheel.

We looked for a mark on our Super C's flywheel for an hour.

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Re: super c govner

Postby Dixonsc » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:42 am

Well I have got Govner on no bushed hogged ab 2 hrs an my belts started smoking really bad guess I will figure it out this week ends .. side note it won't let me post pics here says they to big. But any who is the fan support to have a grease fitting on it as mine had a screw .


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