130 Re Start???

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130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:31 am

My 130 has the 6 volt system...when cold...starts slow but starts. After its warmed up...if I turn it off...it won't start!!!
So, what's wrong and where do I start??? Thanks...

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:32 am

Start by checking for spark when it won't start. You probably have a weak condenser or coil.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:54 pm

Thanks Jim for the quick come back and the info...Will do...Appreciate the help!

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Matt Kirsch » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:15 pm

When it is running, how does it run? I ask because it seems many people don't know how a 4-cylinder IH tractor is supposed to sound when it is running. Seen too many youtube videos of people marveling how their Farmall "runs strong" when it is clearly missing on 1-2 cylinders.

If it sounds like an old John Deere, popping and sputtering, then you need to fix that. A Farmall should sound smooth like a sewing machine, and should accelerate through the RPMs smoothly when revved.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:21 pm

Thanks Guys...Bit the bullet and bought everything! Replaced coil, condenser, points. rotor, and cap. Also cleaned and adjusted the plugs and the wires appear to be good but might replace them a little later.
There is a flat piece of plastic between the rotor and the points/condenser area that I kinda chipped a small piece off in getting it out. Put it back best I could and everything now works as it should. I'm thinking its like a dust/dirt protector or something and wonder if this flat piece is really necessary? If it is, where can I get one? Guy at NAPA didn't seem to know what I was talking about.
Changing the points and condenser was a bear with the distributor being horizontal...kept dropping those small screws...fingers are just to big and its been a while...enjoyed the challenge. Thanks again!

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:26 pm

Is it this piece? http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/957fp.htm If so, as long as it isn't shorting out you should be ok. If It's something else, you may need to post a picture.
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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:20 pm

Jon,
Is the part you're describing shown in the photo? If so, which part? Lower right maybe?

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:27 am

Don...Great picture...and yes the part I chipped is one on the lower right. So...do I need to be concerned and if so where do I get one? Thanks again for all your help...B'Jon

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Eugene » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:47 pm

Lower right photo is a dust cover. Clean up and epoxy the chip. It'll be good to go.

Easier for me to remove the distributor, work on it on the bench.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:20 pm

I have opened up distributors and discovered the dust cover was missing, so not absolutely required. However, it does have reasons to be there. One is to help keep high voltage from jumping to places near the points and condenser. So yes, patch it with epoxy. Use a plain epoxy (nonconductive) that has no metallic fillers (don't use things like JB Weld). It probably won't make any difference, but why look for trouble.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:05 pm

Any suggestions where I might buy a new one??? Like I said, the guy at the local NAPA didn't seem to know what I was talking about...

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:29 pm

It is widely available, including TM for one place.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/322fp.htm
This is for genuine CaseIH. There are also aftermarket ones available that seem to run about half as much. Prices vary quite a bit. Google the part number if you want to comparison shop.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby Eugene » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:37 pm

Guessing, my out of pocket for repairing a chip in the dust cover would be about 10 cents. Nobody but the tractor owner is going to see it.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: 130 Re Start???

Postby BohemianJon » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:23 pm

WOW...Kinda surprised at how much that little old dust cover costs. Should have been a little more careful when I took it off...but it seemed stuck and I just "tapped" it a little. Smaller hammer next time. Will try to repair the chip as suggested. Also will go back to NAPA again now that I have all this good info...Appreciate all the good help.


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