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Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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front tires?

Postby jdeere86 » Thu May 11, 2017 12:47 pm

wondering what you guys think of these ...https://simpletire.com/sigma-5.0015-frt ... DQodn0oA8A they are going on a 140 that has 5-15 4 plys on her now...

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Re: front tires?

Postby tst » Thu May 11, 2017 12:50 pm

I just bought carlise made in the USA for $6 more each, instead of those china made tires for a 140

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Re: front tires?

Postby Slim140 » Thu May 11, 2017 12:58 pm

I agree with Tim, if you can pay a little extra get the U.S.A. made, you'll be happy in the long run.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Super A » Thu May 11, 2017 1:17 pm

How wide are they? 5.00-15s used to really be 5" wide and maybe a little wider. The last one I bought was doing good to be 4" wide. Does anyone make a tire in that size the same width they "used" to be?

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Re: front tires?

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu May 11, 2017 7:37 pm

I have a pair of harvest king tires on my A. Can't find any issue with them.
Very few tires are made in the US anymore. Even the ones from American based companies are manufactured in China or India.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Super A » Thu May 11, 2017 8:30 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:I have a pair of harvest king tires on my A. Can't find any issue with them.
Very few tires are made in the US anymore. Even the ones from American based companies are manufactured in China or India.
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The tire in question was some off-brand Chinese/Indian/Martian brand I had never heard of before. I'll need to take a picture.
Mike I'd be curious to see what your tires look like.

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Re: front tires?

Postby SONNY » Thu May 11, 2017 9:58 pm

Looks ok to me,--you have to add shipping on top of the price.---All the tires, (tractor and truck) that I have bought have been made by the martians. ----price was decent, shipping on mine was included, ( I wont buy unless shipping is free)! thanks; sonny

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Re: front tires?

Postby jdeere86 » Fri May 12, 2017 6:22 am

i'll have to take a measurement to see how wide ...probably will go with the Carlisle's

thank you for all the input

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Re: front tires?

Postby Eugene » Fri May 12, 2017 6:40 am

Have you priced tires from you local tire shop? They probably have the tire on hand for you to inspect.

Normally, mounting new tires on your rims is included in the sale price at your local tire shop.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat May 13, 2017 9:09 am

Eugene wrote:Have you priced tires from you local tire shop? They probably have the tire on hand for you to inspect.

Normally, mounting new tires on your rims is included in the sale price at your local tire shop.

It's probably included because the sale price makes up for it.
I originally tried going through local tire shops. All but the commercial dealer wouldn't touch a tractor tire. The commercial tire dealer charged $100 to mount a tire so I learned to do it myself. Front tires arnt really that hard to mount. I have a set of moose motorcycle tire spoons I use and a long set I made from pry bars I bought from Harbor Frieght. I put the prying ends to the grinder to round and smooth them out. They work great. As for where I buy them? Ebay offers the best prices. Deestone Cub tires and tubes cost me $80. The Harvest Kings were $110 4.00x15 for the A. They look small with the 11.2 rears so I'll be picking up a pair of Deestones which go for about $120 shipped.
The cheapest guy on eBay happens to be around the corner from me so I'll save more by picking them up. :wink:
Here's his card. I'm sure he'd do deals and ship outside of eBay beating any price you can find.
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Just yesterday I picked up a set of tubes for my cracked JD lawn tractors tires. 4 heavy tubes $38.

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Al it's raining right now by I'll take a pic of those Harvest Kings for you. I have another A with 9.5s that will be flipped. I knew the 4.00x15s would look good with the 9s so I bought them first to see how they'd look with the 11s. Decent tire but too small with the bigger rear.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat May 13, 2017 9:28 am

jdeere86 wrote:i'll have to take a measurement to see how wide ...probably will go with the Carlisle's

thank you for all the input

Read the sidewall on the tire. If made in the US matters to you you'll need to know that not all of Carlisle tire are US made. Speaking with Mike yesterday he pointed out that the smaller less expensive tires marked with their logo are made outside the US (Tailand, China, India). If it is it'll be marked "designed in the US, made in China".

There's a lot of that going on.
Example...
BFGoodrich Radial TA tires are made by Goodrich and Coker tire. They look exactly the same and have the same raised white letters but the Coker tire is about 30% cheaper to buy. Coker is licensed by Goodrich to sell them and I'm pretty sure they are made outside the US.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Eugene » Sat May 13, 2017 11:14 am

Lt.Mike wrote:I originally tried going through local tire shops. All but the commercial dealer wouldn't touch a tractor tire. The commercial tire dealer charged $100 to mount a tire.
Commercial tire shop must have thought you were talking about a tractor rear tire. Tractor front rims fit tire dismounting and mounting machines. Surprised that a local dealership wouldn't at least price front tractor tires and the quoted price for mounting a tire.

One of the benefits of living in a rural area. Costs $14- or $15- to have the tire shop remove the tire from the vehicle, dismount tire from rim, repair the tire, remount the tire and place the tire back on the vehicle.

Locally, there are two tire shops that handle tractor tires. When I order tractor rear tires, they ask if I'm going to mount the tire before giving me a price.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: front tires?

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat May 13, 2017 1:40 pm

It was actually a rear tire at that time.
It's all the same though here when you show them a hoop rim with no center to clamp on the machine. The guys servicing tractor trailers are the only ones doing it. The regular shops don't want anything to do with it. It's out of their comfort zone.
It forced me to learn something new, something I wouldn't have thought I could do. Done a bunch since then and it gets easier every time. :wink:
Did the lawn tractor tubes yesterday in about an hour. Feeling kinda handy now. :lol:
I will say that it can be a bear to break that bead if it's rusted to an old rim. That brings up another point. If you do it yourself, if you pull the old tire off and the rim needs repair and repainting on the inner side the shop may not do it. It's easier to deal with in your own backyard.
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Re: front tires?

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat May 13, 2017 2:16 pm

Here you go Al.

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A shot from the fall leaf cleanup. Tires don't look right with the large rears.

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...And as I was taking shots of the tires I watched a big bumble bee land and enter the top bolt hole on the torque tube.
Great :roll: and this tractor gets used regularly
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Re: front tires?

Postby tst » Sat May 13, 2017 7:18 pm

Just one more note on tires many are not aware of, there is now a 15% import tax on top of sales tax and the price of the tire, this does not affect prices of the tires made in the USA, I have found with the import tax it now brings the pricing much closer to the USA tire price, many tire dealers do not mention this tax till they hand you the bill, I have found that you cannot always find your size American made but I try, sometimes pricing is close and some times miles apart, buying front tires which are not that costly and the tax does not hurt much but when buying rears it can be a big difference


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