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Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:44 pm

Super A wrote:The bottom on the A/Super A/Super AV grilles is cut differently, it's not symmetrical from right to left to allow for the steering box. Al


Jim Becker wrote:I agree, "B" grille. Wrong bottom cut-outs for an "A", wrong emblem for a "C".


Thanks, guys. I’ll be asking the guy whom I’m getting a replacement tank from about a hood and grille as well.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:35 pm

Got out the other grille, which was in worse shape than the one I was working on. It appears to be a Farmall A grille with the cutout on the right side for the steering housing. Both hoods here below; Farmall B on the left, Farmall A on the right:
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Grille on left is for a model B. One on the right is for a model A (see cutaway).

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The model B grille only has a round opening. The one on the right (model A) also has a notch for an overflow tube.


I put the grilles away for now. Since it was another warm day, got the radiator and fan shroud stripped and primed. Did a dry assembly and it seems I'll only have to drill a couple holes in the radiator to support the fan shroud; the lower holes work fine.
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Ready for wire wheeling.

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Primed and dry assembled.

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Taking shape.


After this assembly, it also struck me that the fan hub will need to be installed before the radiator. :wink:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:34 pm

Couldn't let a 65F degree day go to waste. Shot some seasonal paint today... :wink:

Glad I haven't tore down my little shed--makes a great painting booth.

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Sorry about the direct sunlight.

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The extra items I sprayed outside on a table in the yard on sawhorses, then carried them back inside the barn to dry.
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Once all this is dry, I can continue some assembly. The only major items left are the gas tank, hood and grille. Will see about acquiring them next and getting them ready for paint later in the Spring.

It was a good day! Wishing you a Merry Christmas! :tractor:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby randallc » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:23 am

Looking and sounding good. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:51 am

randallc wrote:Looking and sounding good. Merry Christmas to you and yours.


Thanks, friend! A very Merry Christmas to you as well.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Super A » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:20 pm

Stanton wrote:Got out the other grille, which was in worse shape than the one I was working on. It appears to be a Farmall A grille with the cutout on the right side for the steering housing. Both hoods here below; Farmall B on the left, Farmall A on the right:
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I put the grilles away for now. Since it was another warm day, got the radiator and fan shroud stripped and primed. Did a dry assembly and it seems I'll only have to drill a couple holes in the radiator to support the fan shroud; the lower holes work fine.
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After this assembly, it also struck me that the fan hub will need to be installed before the radiator. :wink:


Earlier A/B grilles didn't have the overflow tube notch. I assume there's a serial break but not sure what it is.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:08 am

Able to buy a spare gas tank, hood and nose grille from another IHCC member. He also had a set of dies (as advertised in Red Power magazine) for straightening out the grille bars.

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Will probably fiberglass this area from the inside and then use as little filler as possible on the outside.

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Removing the emblem.

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Almost as good as new.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:18 am

Have some screen/mesh laying around, so wanted to make a new fuel filter for the brass angle inlet on the carb and a standpipe for the fuel bowl (inside the tank).

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Bought some solder paste.

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Used a 3/16" drill bit as a form to roll the screen around.

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Dry fitted.

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Trimmed the end with notches so they'd lay better when folded over.

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Here you can see the notches.

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Size of screen and rolled up, inserted and soldered.

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Old one is on top, replacement below.


Next was the standpipe screen. The old one had a solid metal ring that the screen was soldered to, then that assemble slipped down over the fuel bowl stub. I omitted the ring and just soldered it to tightly fit over the stub.

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Found that using my soldering gun worked good on spot soldering.

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Finished and ready to install.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby ricky racer » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:33 pm

You sure do good work!! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:58 pm

Been working on the sheet metal portion of the AV in the last few days.

As I showed before, the grille has some cancer issues along the bottom edge.
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Had to be very careful I didn't tear it up when stripping.

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Had a fiberglass kit left over from working on the Cub Cadet 782 dash. Put some on the inside of the grille.


Trimmed it off when dry and then applied Bondo to the outside bottom of the grille to smooth it out.
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The holes didn't line up with the radiator bracket I have, so plugged the holes with sheet metal, sanded flush and then used Bondo to fill in the pin holes. Drilled new holes in the right locations.
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Dry fit to make sure it all fit together halfway decent.
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Tip of the day: Use a large, flat-sided plastic container (mine was kitty litter) and cut scrapers out for applying Bondo. They're tough and flexible, conforming to the curves of the grille or piece your working on. When the Bondo dries, it comes off the plastic so it can be used multiple times.
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My intention is the use cheap, rattle can primer (Rust-oleum), sand down to bare metal, spray with Case-IH primer, sand down lightly, spray again with Case-IH primer, sand down again, then apply 3-5 topcoats of Case-IH 2150 red. Hoping that will give the sheet metal a good shine and durability. Here's the gas tank with the first coat of Rust-oleum primer.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:26 pm

Stanton wrote:. . .
Tip of the day: Use a large, flat-sided plastic container (mine was kitty litter) and cut scrapers out for applying Bondo. They're tough and flexible, conforming to the curves of the grille or piece your working on. When the Bondo dries, it comes off the plastic so it can be used multiple times.
. . .

Advertisements that come in the mail seem to be an unending supply of credit card sized pieces of plastic. They did come in credit card ads but don't seem to any more. They still show up in "membership" offers etc, even cable company ads. Unfortunately, it seems like more of them lately are light weight cardboard. Used up debit cards that companies like to use for refunds and rebates are another source. These are typically a little stiffer than what you typically can cut from a bottle.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:46 am

Jim Becker wrote:Advertisements that come in the mail seem to be an unending supply of credit card sized pieces of plastic. They did come in credit card ads but don't seem to any more. They still show up in "membership" offers etc, even cable company ads. Unfortunately, it seems like more of them lately are light weight cardboard. Used up debit cards that companies like to use for refunds and rebates are another source. These are typically a little stiffer than what you typically can cut from a bottle.


Good idea as well. What I liked about the kitty litter jug was the large size. The piece I used was about 7” long, which really gave me some feathering ability.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:38 am

Having done the exact same type of grill repair as Stanton is doing, I can sure see the advantage of his flexible scrapers. I used the store-bought ones (3 sizes to a pack) that are made to be used with Bondo-type products. They were quite stiff, and since there are very few FLAT areas on the SA grill, it meant you only scraped a small strip at one time...leaving the repair needing a lot more sanding. Great idea!

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:44 pm

What a beautiful day it was here in west central Missouri. Quit work early and got outside.

Humidity and wind were low, sky was clear and temperature was warm. Time to shoot some more primer.

Finished spraying the last coat:
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Turned out nice. Will wet sand them with 400 grit paper, wipe ‘em down and get ready for another nice day to shoot some RED!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:00 pm

Wow! Your mangled hood came out beautifully! :hattip:


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