fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

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fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby inairam » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:10 pm

I have a fast hitch on a 140. I think it is an industrial - it is yellow has foot throttle. I am new to fast hitch and the 140 and this is different than the pictures I have seen.

I found this picture ( not my 140) showing the Bail Assembly (?) connected with a rod to the right hand side of the Touch control. This is what I have seen before.

My 140 has the bail assembly bolted to the platform and it looks to be factory to me. Is this an optional set up? If so what are the pluses and minuses?

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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby tst » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:29 pm

that rod came with the fast hitch but many did not use it and left it bolted to the floorboard position, they were thrown out, forgotten etc as time went by

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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:00 pm

Removing the rod and attaching the bail to the platform freed the Touch-Control for other use while keeping the bail up where it wouldn't interfere with crop clearance. Cultivating a row crop was a task where this would appply.

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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby gitractorman » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:06 am

The only reason you need the bail control adjustable is to act as the depth control for plowing. When pulling a turning plow, to plow a field, that bail control sets the angle of the plow and helps you control the plow cutting depth. I can't think of any other use for that bail control, so, having it bolted to the platform just keeps it up out of the way. If you're planning to plow win your tractor, you'll want to move the link up to the touch control arm. If not, you're all set for everything else.
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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby inairam » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:37 am

I do have a plow but my only real plan for is was to help shape some drainage swales.

I do have a FH grader box and rake. I did notice the box did not dig as much as when it was on the loboy with FH. Maybe I have to look into getting one to do what I want with this tractor.

Are the lifting rods the same for both sides?
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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby Super A » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:32 am

IMO the bail is pretty important if you plan to use the FH for much of anything. For example, If you leave it pinned the front gang of a disk will barely touch the ground and the back gangs will ridge.

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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:49 am

My comments are along the line of what Al said. The rod connecting the bail to the right Touch-Control arm does the same as the lever or crank on a Cub Fast-Hitch. Most tillage implements need the bail adjustment to set the pitch. The same with planters like the 184. With the bail clear up, it would be resting on the press wheel with the runner mostly out of the ground. If is even useful with the platform carrier.

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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby Saucymynx » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:22 pm

I also agree with Al. Think of it as the top link of a three point hitch. It’s how you adjust the pitch. I need it in the full down position to transport my two bottom plow and disc. Without it, they barely clear the ground. I also find it helpful when I use my carryall - I can tilt the platform up so things don’t fall off as easily. I would think it would also be helpful with your box blade to adjust the angle of attack

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1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
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1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
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Re: fast hitch Bail Assembly bolted to platform

Postby inairam » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:40 pm

I found a repop rod and the Link Connector at the Burch store. Very easy install.

Adding the link had a big impact on the ground clearance for the rake and the box.

Thank everone for letting me know how important it is.
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