130 sickle bar help needed

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130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:56 pm

I bought a rear mount sickle bar a couple years ago, just getting to try it on the tractor
Not quite sure how it mounts, it has a short pto shaft, and looks like it mounts to both the front and rear mounts with a hook/cam bar on the top bolts.
I think I’m missing the lifting link between the rear tractor rockshaft Arm and the arm on the mower
Could someone post a sketch/ picture with dimensions ?
I was thinking of fabricating one
Does anyone have a picture to post what the mounted mower looks like?
I could try to post a picture of what my mower looks like
I tried looking in the manuals section unable to find any info
Is there an operators manual available?
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:32 pm

My first guess is that you have an A-21 mower. A picture could confirm that. If so, the tractor's rear rockshaft is not used with the mower. There should be a long rod that connects from the left side of the front rockshaft back to the mower.

I might have some sort of picture or drawing.

Edit:
There is one on this page:
https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi- ... &th=850185

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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:28 pm

The mower in the picture looks similar to mine
I do have a long rod that was unattached
What does that connect to?
The arm in the upper left of the picture ?
I do have front cultivators /side dresser on the tractor will the mower fit with those on?
Are there instructions how to resize my picture to post on iPad ?
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:05 pm

The long rod attaches the Touch-Control arm, the same place as the lift rod for the rear rockshaft. If your rear rockshaft is in place, you can move it to the inside Touch-Control arm (if needed), then connect the rod to the outer arm. The mower can be mounted with the front cultivators in place. However, you may find the cultivators to be a nuisance if they keep picking up the mown grass and dragging it along.

Maybe someone else can address your iPad question.

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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:01 pm

The long rod goes between the tire and fender :?:
When mounting do you align the front slots with bolts then lift
And rotate the double cam bar to engage the rear upper bolts?

Thank you for your help Jim
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:41 pm

howhow1 wrote:The long rod goes between the tire and fender :?:

As I recall, yes. You may have to set the tire out to have clearance.
howhow1 wrote:When mounting do you align the front slots with bolts then lift
And rotate the double cam bar to engage the rear upper bolts?

Again to the best of my recollection, yes. You engage the front of the mower drawbar to the front studs in the final drives. Then rotate the cam bar to bring the rear of the drawbar up into place. I think you just bring the forwardmost part of the drawbar up against the studs, but not forward to the fully mounted position. Rotating the cam will first bring the rear of the drawbar up then move the entire mower forward into position for tightening the mounting nuts.

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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:37 am

Got the pitman arm finished
Made a new wooden piece the old one was rotten & in pieces :(
I think Igot the length of the wooden link length close just under 36”
From putting the two pieces together
Add some mounting bolts with the chamfer - took some standard 3/4 bolts built up the shoulders & turned ‘me down on the lathe
Hoping to mount & test it out this weekend :{_}:
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L-38 disc
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grader blade - power swivel
42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:43 pm

Whew :D got the mower mounted and working......
The belt is old & worn time to replace
Does any one know the size of the belt :?:

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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:43 pm

Any markings on the old belt? You can always measure it.
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:30 pm

Depends on the drive pulley. I believe there were 2 options.

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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:18 pm

no markings on the old belt - it is weathered quite a bit
I'm thinking it may be in the neighborhood of a C - 51
I will measure the drive pulley
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L-38 disc
22 mower
grader blade - power swivel
42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
and power steering
Location: Boston, NY

Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:24 pm

the drive pulley measures out at about 10-1/2" OD
will post pictures when I figure out how to resize & post
thanks guys
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:24 pm

I'm still not 100% sure on what model your mower is. I'm thinking it is an A-21, or maybe an A-24. If so, the drive pulley should be 10-7/8 diameter. The part number is either M2570 or M2568. If all that matches, the belt is M32812. It is 7/8 width by 52-3/8 outside circumference.

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L-38 disc
22 mower
grader blade - power swivel
42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
and power steering
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby howhow1 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:28 pm

I think the correct belt is M32812 which corresponds to a C - 48 which is cross section C and 52 " long
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Re: 130 sickle bar help needed

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:43 pm

Yes, that looks like an A-21 mower. The pulley looks like M2570, number should be cast into it. 7/8 width matches a C section. That length is close enough.


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