Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby EZ » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:41 am

Dave1950 wrote:Thanks EZ, I may get out today to remove right wheel and PTO.


Good stuff.
I always found that I spent more time thinking about how daunting these tasks will be.
Until the wrench was actually in my hand and I started turning it, then it became easy, and I would have to declare that I was overthinking. Seems to be a condition I have.
Again, my advice is to take lots of pictures, catalog all your parts in zip lock bags etc.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:16 pm

Well today the tractor won. Had it jacked up, cherry picker on the right wheel. removed all 6 bolts. The darn wheel would not budge. sprayed area with blaster. Now the tractor is sitting there laughing at me. Tuesday will try again.

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby EZ » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:38 pm

Hope you get the last laugh. :D
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:21 pm

Age factor has probably got it locked to the axle. Try a BIG hammer (place a board on the tire/rim so you don't bend/break anything) and hit it HARD!!!

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:40 pm

That's what I was going to suggest. Just be careful...when that puppy breaks loose, make sure your cherry picker has a good hold on it!

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:10 pm

Ok, so wheel will still not budge, all bolts out hit 2x4 with sledge hammer. Nothing. I was able to get the wheel off the hub. I was thinking to tear down the final drive to get the shaft to pull out of final. Any thoughts.

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby EZ » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:58 pm

Hi Dave,
Now that the wheel is off the hub, you should only have to unbolt where the shaft is connected to the tranny. Should slide right out.
Can you post a photo of where you are at
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:01 pm

So made some progress today. got right rear final drive off with the hub and weight attached.

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:06 pm

Started working on the left side. got the wheel off the hub, started loosening the bolts to remove the final drive. Got the top 4 loose but the first bottom one rounded off. so I quit for today.

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby EZ » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:33 pm

Wow, amazing how those hubs are frozen on there. Extra weight to deal with but you got the one side off. Progress for sure.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby EZ » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:05 pm

http://photos.cubfest.com/displayimage.php?pos=-17317
If you go in this deep, new seals and bearings won't hurt, plus a good time for new brake bands.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:09 pm

Progress... Got the left final off. Removed PTO, and shifter. While I am still satisfied with my accomplishment I called it a day.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Dave1952 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:10 pm

Question does the transmission slide off just like the final drives?

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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Shane N. » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:16 pm

Dave1950 wrote:Question does the transmission slide off just like the final drives?

Yes. Should have a couple dowel pins as well for alignment, may be tight coming off.
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Re: Super A Transmission, What have I gotten myself into?

Postby Urbish » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:53 pm

I recommend safety wiring the clutch pedal in the up position before you pull the trans. If nobody touches the clutch, the friction disc will stay put and everything will go back together happily. If someone bumps the clutch pedal or messes with it, the disc can fall out of alignment and cause you a new alignment headache. Also make sure you have lots of room behind the tractor to slide the trans and shaft rearward as a unit. It's no fun to get to that stage and realize you have to move the tractor ahead a couple of feet to clear.
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