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new cub owner, NE PA

Postby samsteady51 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:43 pm

Became a cub owner by being given my dear deceased friend's 1971 IH Cub by his daughter. Hadn't been started in many years, probably 12-15, and so had it hauled to my place and I stood there with a deer in the headlights look...I'm not very mechanical at all, but I'm guessing I'm about to be, the hard way. First, removed and had battery checked - wouldn't take a charge so I replaced it. Now lights work and starter will turn it over, but won't start. OK, drain fuel. Read a post on this forum about draining fuel through the bottom of the carburetor - it worked but was real slow so I put a wire up in carb to see if there was a blockage and now, NO drainage at all. What have I done and is it fixable? I suspect this is the first of many cries for help - I've never worked on machinery but would like to learn. Any help would be appreciated. Sam

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Winfield Dave » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:37 pm

Sam....welcome fellow Pennsylvanian !! :D
You may want to post your question(s) over in the Farmall Cub forum...they will get more exposure.
Enjoy your new Cub !! :{_}:
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby RaymondDurban » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:47 pm

Welcome to he Forum!!
As Dave mentioned, post your question in the Cub section for greater exposure. I suspect you are gonna have to pull the carb and fuel line and give everything a good cleaning.

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Joe Malinowski » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:52 am

Welcome, you will find lots of help here to get your cub running. The carb is most likely a small issue, Sitting that long there may be a problem with the points it is all minor stuff. Also you will want to find the information here about how to prime your oil pump before you start the cub. Don't worry there is plenty on informatin here to help you. Also do not be afraid to ask questions, we may even have a member in your area that could give you a hand. If you have the ability post as many pictures as you can as well. Enjoy your cub.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby ricky racer » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:54 am

:Dito: What Joe said, and welcome to the best Cub website on the planet.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Rudi » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:21 am

Sam:

G'day and congrats on becoming the keeper of your friends Cub. One of the nice things about them is that just about anyone can learn how to maintain/repair them by reading and then by doing. The second nice thing about Cubs is that we have this community that really helps our fellow members solve their problems.

samsteady51 wrote:I'm not very mechanical at all, but I'm guessing I'm about to be, the hard way


The simplest remedy for this is to read -- such things like the Owner's Manual. I think this one is the closest to your 71 that is I have on the server - International Cub and Cub Lo-boy Tractors Operators Manual 1 014 488 R8 Rev. 6 2-75. This will help you become familiar with your new to you Cub.

The next thing to do would be to check the rest of the resources available to our members which you can find by following the links below.

Image to Farmallcub.com :big smile: Forum Family. And you have come to the right place for all things Cub related. If you click on the Site Rules, Regulations, & Important Information, it will point you to :arrow: the Welcome Wagon wherein you will find links to many useful sites and topics. One of which is the Cub Manual Server. Enjoy!.


Now as for your attempt at the carb...

samsteady51 wrote:Read a post on this forum about draining fuel through the bottom of the carburetor - it worked but was real slow so I put a wire up in carb to see if there was a blockage and now, NO drainage at all. What have I done and is it fixable?


Nope, draining the carb through the bottom is not exactly the way it should be done. Sounds like you tried to put a wire up through the weep hole. With luck you didn't do any damage, but to be sure follow the directions in these articles - Lurker Carl's Cub Carb Fixes.

And for this statement:

samsteady51 wrote:I suspect this is the first of many cries for help - I've never worked on machinery but would like to learn. Any help would be appreciated.


Well, that is what we are all about. Have no fear, post away. But as was mentioned post your next questions in the main Farmall Cub forum.

Most of all, enjoy playing with your new Cub, it will provide many, many hours of enjoyment as you travel down this road and many years of enjoyment to come.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby randallc » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:34 am

Welcome to the forum from Arkansas. Did you drain out all the gas, probably not. I disconnect the line from where it goes into the carb to drain. Then you can check to see the flow from the tank. If not stopped up somewhere it should be a full line flow. May have trash in the carb. Will probably have to take apart and clean it. Ask questions, and show pictures if you can. There are many capable to answer on this site, unfortunately I am not one of them, but they will take care of your questions.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:19 pm

samsteady51 wrote: OK, drain fuel. Read a post on this forum about draining fuel through the bottom of the carburetor - it worked but was real slow so I put a wire up in carb to see if there was a blockage and now, NO drainage at all.

Sam,
Welcome to the site. Since I haven't seen a reply on this specific piece of your situation, I thought I would add a comment. The float valve in the carburetor was originally all metal. Many replacements have a viton (rubber) tip. If you had the bowl drain open and ran a wire up into it, it would have likely run into the float. Bumping the float up would have bumped the float valve closed. If you have a viton tip, it may have stuck tightly into the float valve seat. If all this is so, fuel flow into the carburetor would be totally cut off. You may have to disassemble the carburetor to free the float valve. While this sounds inconvenient right now, this is not a big problem. Since the tracor has been idle for so long and you are having fuel problems, it is likely that you will end up disassembling, cleaning and putting a rebuild kit in the carburetor anyway. Use a good carb kit (from TM, CaseIh or Steiner). DO NOT follow the temptation to blow air into the carb inlet. You could collapse the float.

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Barnyard » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:25 pm

Welcome to the group. You'll be good at working on your Cub in no time with the help of the guys here.

Just to add to what Jim said, be careful when you seperate the top from the bottom of the carb. The idle tube in there tends to break off. You don't want to twist the top around. Genly lift the top straight off.

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby OliverFarmall » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:23 am

My farm is over in Birchardville, so I'm a fellow 18801 zipcoder. Congrats.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:29 pm

Sam, Welcome to the forum

OliverFarmall wrote:My farm is over in Birchardville, so I'm a fellow 18801 zipcoder. Congrats.



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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby samsteady51 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:41 pm

I've been busy tinkering with the new toy and hadn't got back to this thread until just now. Wow! Lots of support here - thanks for making me feel so welcome. Carb issue resolved on its own, then went the suggested SeaFoam route and it's smoking like a crack addict but I hear that's normal. Sediment bowl outlet leak is current issue but I'll figure it out. Thanks again and if I can figure out how to post pictures (I'm not high-tech my daughters remind me) I'll try to get some up. Good to know I've got help in Birchardville if I need it - hunted near there all my life.

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Winfield Dave » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:00 pm

samsteady51 wrote:...if I can figure out how to post pictures...
Sam...The quickest way to post pics is as an attachment to your post.
Go to bottom of your screen "upload attachment";
"Browse" to the pic you want on your computer;
"Add the file";
Position your cursor where you want it in the post and click "Place inline"

"Preview" your post before submitting to see what it will look like.
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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby samsteady51 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:06 pm

Rudi, I've tried to access the 1975 manual online but can't seem to get it to appear. Various problems noted with server, none of which make any sense to me. I'll try again in a few days or order a hard copy. Sam

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Re: new cub owner, NE PA

Postby Chris Todd » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:23 pm

Congratulations Sam and welcome. How is your oil pressure?
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