Cub 3 point hitch ??

[MiCarl]

Here is my dilemma:

For my Speedex tractor I have a full compliment of cat 0 3 point implements. The tractor is a perfect size for my large suburban lot. Problem is the tractor and it's drive line are a bit light for the Brinly 12" 3 point plow I have.

Now I've got the Cub and plan to use it for plow days.

I'm wrestling with whether to get a 193 plow for the Cub or just put a 3 point hitch kit on it and use the plow I already have.

The advantage I see to the 3 point is I can pull all my current cat 0 implements, although my cat 0 disc, back blade and tiller (self powered) are narrower than the Cub. Plus I could theoretically use modern limited cat 1 implements should I run into a need for something else.

The advantage I see to going with a 193 plow is it's less $$ and the draw bar can go back to rearward position fairly quickly if I need to pull a trailer or something.

To complicate the situation we hope to move in the next couple years to a larger place where we'll likely have a larger garden and probably will want to use a tractor to cultivate. While I suspect Cub cultivators are great I can get a 1 row three point cultivator for a lot less money and it would be easier to switch on/off.

I would appreciate any thoughts.

[Bob McCarty]

I think Worksaver may be the only 3 pt kit available unless you make your own. It runs $500-600 so you might factor that into the equation too.

[MiCarl]

I think Worksaver may be the only 3 pt kit available unless you make your own. It runs $500-600 so you might factor that into the equation too.

It is the Worksaver kit I'm considering. What do you think of it?

[Bob McCarty]

I've never used one, so I can't comment on it.

[BigBill]

How much is the Worksaver 3pt hitch.? Doesn’t look hard to fab one.

[MiCarl]

How much is the Worksaver 3pt hitch.? Doesn’t look hard to fab one.

Best price I've found is $676 shipped.

I figure $400-$500 materials to make one.

[47fivewindow]

I mounted the Brindly on the cub. Bolted it to the pivoting drawbar. it worked fine.

[Willy]

How much is the Worksaver 3pt hitch.? Doesn’t look hard to fab one.

Best price I've found is $676 shipped.

I figure $400-$500 materials to make one.

I've been looking at making one for a while now. I'm thinking I can do it a good bit cheaper than that on materials, but for now, it's a low priority for me. After I finish up with the ATV blade I'm adapting, the plan is to get something going on a mower deck.

[Jim Becker]

A lot of the shop-built 3-point hitches don't have the correct geometry to work properly. They may work passably well for utility type stuff (platforms and the like), but fail with equipment that requires a proper draft behavior (like a plow). Try using a combination like that and you will be constantly fighting it. If it works relatively bad with a cat 1 implement, it will be even worse if you try to use a cat 0.

I have never used a Worksaver hitch on a Cub so I don't know. But judging by the pictures, it may fall into the category I was just talking about.

[MiCarl]

A lot of the shop-built 3-point hitches don't have the correct geometry to work properly. They may work passably well for utility type stuff (platforms and the like), but fail with equipment that requires a proper draft behavior (like a plow). Try using a combination like that and you will be constantly fighting it. If it works relatively bad with a cat 1 implement, it will be even worse if you try to use a cat 0.

I have never used a Worksaver hitch on a Cub so I don't know. But judging by the pictures, it may fall into the category I was just talking about.

I see what you're saying, and it is something I thought about at one time but had slipped my mind.

One of the neat thing about the Speedex 3 point is it's really more of a 2 point. It's a pair of lift arms with a U across them that the top link attaches to. So the implement rotates in an exact arc around the lift arm pivots. I can set the plow up with lots of suck at entry but it levels out nicely as it rotates down.

If the top link attachment point on the tractor is too high the suck will increase as the plow enters the ground - it'll try and dig its way to China.

My Brinly plow does have three holes on the mast to attach the top link, so there is some adjustment there. I need to position the plow behind the tractor and see if there is any hope the geometry might work. My guess is the answer will be no.

Thanks for the wake up on this!

[SONNY]

It's not at all hard to make your own SAE 3-pt. for the cub, and get the right geo. for it to work.---Do a lot of test fitting before cutting/welding as you go and you will soon see what/where things need to go.
I made one for my cubs and use a 10" brinley on it,--Works fine.--My hitch has all kinds of adjustments, so it works on whatever I hook it to. thanks; sonny

[Jim Becker]

If the top link attachment point on the tractor is too high the suck will increase as the plow enters the ground - it'll try and dig its way to China.

You did a pretty good job of describing what happens vertically. Keep in mind the same thing happens sideways. The front ends of the lower links need to be closer together than the back ends. Otherwise, the plow will not follow the tractor but try to veer off to one side or the other.

[staninlowerAL]

Here's an idea made by a Forum member. He sent me some details, if you are interested send me a PM.

[BigBill]

I already have the lower 3pt Arms I purchased from a kubota on clearance.

[MiCarl]

Here's an idea made by a Forum member. He sent me some details, if you are interested send me a PM.
3pt rear view.jpg

I can see where adding a couple more tabs to position lift arms and top link in various positions would make that hitch very flexible. The problem with the one pictured is it won't float, which you need for a plow. That could be handled easily enough though.

I think for now I'll probably just chase up a 193 plow and use the Speedex for all the other implements.

Thanks everyone for the input - I really appreciate it!