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What's up with this front axle?

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:39 pm

Why would the front axle tube be at an angle on this Lo-boy?

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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Glen » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:05 pm

Hi,
It might be hard to tell if there is something wrong with it, without being there.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby tmays » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:17 pm

Time to pull it
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:46 pm

I can't tell if there is anything out of the ordinary or if it is a combination of the ground contour and the angle the picture was taken from. If it really is turned at an angle it needs to be checked quick.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby willys55 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:52 pm

at first I thought it was a trick photo, or strange camera angle, but then I can see a gap between the bolster and the steering gear housing. I think you lost the bolts to the steering gear housing and it has skipped over and past the locator/position pin in the bolster. Definitely get a closer look on that before you go anywhere with it.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:21 pm

It's not mine. It's being offered for sale but that funky axle makes me wonder if it's worth a 3.5 hr round trip to see it. My first impression is a busted housing.

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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Barnyard » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:07 pm

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I don't think it's the angle of the picture. If you look at it another way with the tractor straight you can really see the axle is rotated back on the right side (left in pic).
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Glen » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:14 pm

Hi,
Below is a page from the Cub owner's manual showing the tie rods.
It looks like the tie rods are put together wrong, in the pic you posted, from how the IH pic is.

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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:54 pm

Maybe this will make it easier to see what I'm talking about. The axle (not the tierods) is not perpendicular with the tractor. The LF wheel is forward of and the RF wheel is rearward of the grille.

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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Cubfriend » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:02 pm

I have had the snout broken at the factory weld on the rear of the axle where the pivot pin goes through. Replaced axle with a good one. The other (broken) axle could have been welded back together.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby wrz » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:37 am

The placement of the right head light tells that the loboy may have had a loader on it at one time. The extra weight may account for the damage to the axle if the bucket was full and the wheel hit something while moving.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Crimson Tim » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:46 am

I’m not convinced there is anything wrong with it. I think the left front wheel is on significantly lower ground than the right, and all we are seeing is an odd perspective on the left front lower and right front higher as the axle is intended to pivot.

Also, IF the axle is actually rotated about it’s vertical axis, that the left front is forward and right front back, I don’t see how a seller could not know about it or have any expectation that you would show up to purchase the tractor and not notice.

I have had the bolts that hold the steering bolster together come loose, and when that front axle starts wobbling around things get real scary real fast. I am pretty sure that if all the bolts were just plain missing, the whole thing would just flop over immediately and drop the bolster on the ground. So the kind of damage or disconnect required to allow that much fore-aft pivot seems pretty unlikely IMO, seeing as how it is still standing.

If it were closer, I wouldn’t worry about it at all.
Since it is going to be a such a long trip, though, it is wise to be prudent. There are a few people out there who might try to take advantage.
Ask specifically about it. Ask for more pictures.
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby tmays » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:11 am

tmays wrote:Time to pull it


When I commented, I assumed you had seen the tractor in person. From just the pic, it’s hard to say if anything is wrong. Pics can be deceiving
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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby Urbish » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:23 am

I'm not convinced there is a problem here. I second that you ought to ask for a few more pics, specifically from the side, before you make the long trip to see/buy it. I think the tractor is parked on un-level ground and combined with lens distortion, the angle of the photos, and the slight turn of the wheels, it looks funky.

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Re: What's up with this front axle?

Postby CharlieB » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:27 am

If any damage is reflected in the purchase price, the rest of the tractor looks to
be in pretty good condition. I would check it out.


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