Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

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Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:42 pm

Was reading on converting the 300 to 12V and people were talking about just taking the original generator 6V to automotive electrical shops and having them convert it to 12V. Sooo this got me thinking what are the benefits of a having a 12V alternator vs. a 12V Generator?
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Eugene » Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:24 pm

The alternator or if needed a replacement alternator is dirt cheap compared to repair shop prices on a generator and purchasing a new replacement regulator.

You can get a replacement alternator any time the auto parts store is open.

The alternator will out last a generator. Out last several regulators.

If you get the one wire alternator, electrical wiring is simple.

Not knowing the 300, go ahead and get a single wire 12 volt Delco clone alternator.

I have replaced the 6 volt system on all my tractors with a Delco 12 volt alternator.
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:11 pm

Is this the alternator you are talking about have seen it posted a lot

https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/c ... 12180.html
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Eugene » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:28 pm

I'm using the 63 amp Delco from the auto parts store. It fits under the hood of a Cub.

Either alternator will work. Your choice.
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:33 pm

Do I need to replace the voltage regulator?
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Eugene » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:37 pm

Voltage regulator is contained inside the alternator. No separate one needed.
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Glen » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:41 pm

Hi,
IH used a Delco alternator on the Cubs from 1975 on. :)
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Jackman » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:01 pm

The Chevy mini alt is noticably smaller then the Delco , I bought the Delco but returned it in favor of the Chevy mini, both are available at advance auto parts , but if ya want to save a few dollars go online I pd 59 dollars on ebay :D

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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:24 pm

Ok thanks for the help. So basically all I need to do is bolt on the alternator, switch out bulbs to 12V, add a 12V battery and then ground correctly. That all?
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Glen » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:49 pm

Hi,
You need a 12 volt coil with internal resistor, or you can use the 6 volt coil by adding a resistor to the wiring, near the coil. They have them at auto parts stores. :)

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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:57 am

Yup forgot to mention that. Got the petronix Kit coming and just using their coil. Thanks, simple enough. Hopefully get all the stuff and can do this over the weekend.

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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Eugene » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:42 am

You may or may not need a new amp gauge. If the alternator's potential output exceeds the reading on the current gauge, get a new one.

One item at a time. Make sure the 12 V. alternator is working properly and the engine running before adding the Petronix.
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:17 am

You'll like the alternator setup, as it is much less complicated (for you, because actually there's a whole lot more going on in there, you just don't have to do any wiring) and requires less care and feeding than a genetator/regulator.

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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby ShawnAgne » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:03 pm

Eugene wrote:You may or may not need a new amp gauge. If the alternator's potential output exceeds the reading on the current gauge, get a new one.

One item at a time. Make sure the 12 V. alternator is working properly and the engine running before adding the Petronix.


That went through my mind. Doing the Cub first since its not currently in mowing status. Then when I get it working with alternator and Petronix I'll do the 300 which is currently the workhorse, or as much work as a tractor does mowing a 3.5 acre yard that is mostly flat with some trees.
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Re: Converting the 6V Generator to 12V as opposed to alternator?

Postby Glen » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:04 am

Hi,
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub owner's manual showing the original 12 volt battery in the battery box, if you want to see it. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-25.jpg


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