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First of a production year any more desireable

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Slim140 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:23 pm

Johnnymass18 wrote:Not completely for resale I flip the run of the mill stuff and hang on to the odd pieces for myself

I gotcha, it would definitely be unique being the first one of a year but more valuable? I don't think so unless it was 1947.
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:30 pm

Chipmaker wrote:
Johnnymass18 wrote:By the way the serial # is 179412 according to some production sheets it never existed

I wouldn't use those sheets then :D

One of them is posted on here as updated if I can find it again I will comment on that post sturr things up a bit

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Slim140 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:35 pm

Johnnymass18 wrote:
Chipmaker wrote:
Johnnymass18 wrote:By the way the serial # is 179412 according to some production sheets it never existed

I wouldn't use those sheets then :D

One of them is posted on here as updated if I can find it again I will comment on that post sturr things up a bit

My great-great-grandfather always said "don't believe everything you read on the internet". :lol:
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:39 pm

That is for sure haha

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby indy61 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:58 pm

According to the Louisville Works serial number report 179412 was the first Cub built in 1954.
I did not know that no Cubs were built between 1/22/54 and 7/6/54.

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:17 pm

Was this during the strike?

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby indy61 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:24 pm

Johnnymass18 wrote:Was this during the strike?


No, I think major changes to assembly line due to Lo-Boy.

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:31 pm

I see , still debating weather I need it in the line up or not pretty stressful last few hours trying not to feed my addiction to red iron

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Slim140 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:41 pm

If you don't spend it on this tractor you'll spend it on something else :D
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:10 pm

That's true in the past 6 months I've spent 12k on tractors nevermind parts and hauling them around the wife is starting to ask questions although I have sold some and some parts too but she doesn't see that part haha

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby indy61 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:15 pm

It would be interesting to see the difference between 179922 and 179923. It may have been when they switched to emblems instead of decals and maybe the first hood without generator oiling holes. Also grille and other changes.

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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby gitractorman » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:05 pm

By that serial number, it would be around the LAST 1953 cubs built, not the first 1954.

The starting production numbers each year have been recorded very well, whereas the ending production numbers have been calculated in some cases, based on the reported number built. The first 1954 Cub built is serial number 183001, wich is documented from production records. The last 1953 cub was supposedly 179411, but again, those numbers were not typically recorded, and often times they were estimated, so the fact that you have 179,412, just means that 411 wasn't the last. Also, keep in mind that sometimes they skipped numbers in a production run, for various reasons, damaged units, mis-stamped plates, lost count, who knows. Either way, you have a 1953 Cub.

As for the serial number or sales info making it worth more money, no, as others have said, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Also, keep in mind the prices people are "Paying" are very different from what peopole are "Asking" in their Craigslist ads. I recently had a 1964 Cub Lo-boy listed for $1850. A guy was here with $1600 cash and a trailer, and out the door she went. First guy that looked at it. He was there, in person, ready to buy. Cash talks! People with cash and a trailer get good deals! That's just how it goes. Saved me a ton of hastling around with jackasses who don't know what they're doing. Those actual selling price numbers are never found anywhere unless you are the buyer or seller and you let people know.

I've owned some of the most beautifully restored cubs that anyone can mention, and I've never sold one for $5000, but I've sold a few in the $3000 to $3500 range, and I can tell you they were top notch, near perfect condition, and ready to show or work, not leaking a drop of oil, and not needing a single thing. I see a lot of junk sitting on Craigslist, sometimes for years, with people asking big $$. Either they don't know what it's really worth, or they really don't want to sell it "see honey, its for sale but nobody has come to look at it", but as I said, something is only worth what someone will pay.
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby gitractorman » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:11 pm

Also, better check your records. Tractors built in January do not mean that they were "that" year's Cubs. Model changes are all over the place, and rarely occurred at the year end. The production model year changes occurred when production ran out of parts, or new parts came down the line.
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Eugene » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:18 pm

Johnnymass18 wrote:By the way the serial # is 179412 according to some production sheets it never existed
That alone should make it worth an extra $2000- to someone, most likely the seller.
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Re: First of a production year any more desireable

Postby Johnnymass18 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:35 pm

The machine looks unmolested and original just beat up, but it definitely is the old style the grille is red and the wire mesh type it has decals no emblems what else changed with the bodystyle change ? It dose seem to have different headlights from my 49 and 50


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