Transmission shaft

[pickerandsinger]

The old one was bent..So my question is...On the input shaft , where does the bearing ride...Now the old one is pressed up against the splines on the shaft...Is that where its supposed to be..It came out with the shaft..I am putting the new shaft in with the bearing on it without taking the transmission out...( just sliding the trumpet forward)....And to put the new bearing where the old one is located on the old shaft, is going to take considerable force..Maybe to much...Dave.....oh yeah, the bearing is facing open end toward the clutch or outside of the transmission casing...

[Slim140]

Isn't there a snap ring on the front of the shaft to keep it from walking? Pretty sure the open end faces the tranny to let oil get to the bearing then drain back into the case.

[tst]

the shaft will slide out once the 3 bolts on the retainer is removed, the bearing is held on the shaft with a snap ring, it is just a round snap ring with no special ends on it so it is hard to see at 1st and be careful removing it not to bend as it is not sold separately

[pickerandsinger]

Isn't there a snap ring on the front of the shaft to keep it from walking? Pretty sure the open end faces the tranny to let oil get to the bearing then drain back into the case.

.....Seems to me , I read some posts saying the open end faced outward, not as you'd expect it to be...The old one was facing outward...Dave...No snap ring so far...The problem I had was when you let the clutch out the tractor jumped up and down...The transmission input shaft was bent and the pilot bushing was broke...So I got a new shaft and am changing it ...I've had it apart twice but its not cooperating...This is the long shaft ( transmission input shaft )....Dave

[Slim140]

Isn't there a snap ring on the front of the shaft to keep it from walking? Pretty sure the open end faces the tranny to let oil get to the bearing then drain back into the case.

.....Seems to me , I read some posts saying the open end faced outward, not as you'd expect it to be...The old one was facing outward...Dave

Your right, it does face out because of where the oil hole is from the top. Be sure and clean that hole out, there is also one on the back.

[Slim140]

I put in red where the holes are and there is a trough the oil gets sling into to oil the bearings.

[Slim140]

Isn't there a snap ring on the front of the shaft to keep it from walking? Pretty sure the open end faces the tranny to let oil get to the bearing then drain back into the case.

.....Seems to me , I read some posts saying the open end faced outward, not as you'd expect it to be...The old one was facing outward...Dave...No snap ring so far...The problem I had was when you let the clutch out the tractor jumped up and down...The transmission input shaft was bent and the pilot bushing was broke...So I got a new shaft and am changing it ...I've had it apart twice but its not cooperating...This is the long shaft ( transmission input shaft )....Dave

When you put your new pilot bushing in be sure and insert the new shaft into it before putting it in transmission to make sure the bushing didn't shrink and it's not to tight on the shaft. It'll save you some headache later!

[Slim140]

Here's the picture of ours when I put it back in.

[pickerandsinger]

the shaft will slide out once the 3 bolts on the retainer is removed, the bearing is held on the shaft with a snap ring, it is just a round snap ring with no special ends on it so it is hard to see at 1st and be careful removing it not to bend as it is not sold separately

Sent you a PM.....

[pickerandsinger]

Isn't there a snap ring on the front of the shaft to keep it from walking? Pretty sure the open end faces the tranny to let oil get to the bearing then drain back into the case.

.....Seems to me , I read some posts saying the open end faced outward, not as you'd expect it to be...The old one was facing outward...Dave...No snap ring so far...The problem I had was when you let the clutch out the tractor jumped up and down...The transmission input shaft was bent and the pilot bushing was broke...So I got a new shaft and am changing it ...I've had it apart twice but its not cooperating...This is the long shaft ( transmission input shaft )....Dave

When you put your new pilot bushing in be sure and insert the new shaft into it before putting it in transmission to make sure the bushing didn't shrink and it's not to tight on the shaft. It'll ave you some headache later!

....I did that when I got the shaft and am also putting in a new clutch, TO bearing and pilot bushing...Which are in (except for the TO bearing)....That is all good...My problem is with the transmission shaft where it goes in the case and the bearing...I assume the bearing rides in the grooves that are machined into the shaft...The old one was pushed up to the where the splines start past the grooves..Now where is this snap ring you speak of supposed to be located...On which side of the bearing...Seal and cap side or spline side...And then I'll attack the problem as to why the shaft doesn't go in far enough to allow the bearing to be seated in the transmission case when the gears on on it ...The one furthest toward the PTO is "bottomed out so to speak" against the rear wall of the casing...I thought the shaft had meshed with the PTO but it may not have all the way...Thanks Dave

[pickerandsinger]

the shaft will slide out once the 3 bolts on the retainer is removed, the bearing is held on the shaft with a snap ring, it is just a round snap ring with no special ends on it so it is hard to see at 1st and be careful removing it not to bend as it is not sold separately

Sent you a PM.....

[pickerandsinger]

the shaft will slide out once the 3 bolts on the retainer is removed, the bearing is held on the shaft with a snap ring, it is just a round snap ring with no special ends on it so it is hard to see at 1st and be careful removing it not to bend as it is not sold separately

Sent you a PM.....

....Got the shaft out ( twice actually looking for problems..haha)...Havent found a snap ring yet...I am thinking the bearing rides in the machine grooves correct....

[tst]

you can push the bearing on to the shaft only so far, it has a raised part to stop it

[pickerandsinger]

you can push the bearing on to the shaft only so far, it has a raised part to stop it

OK guys thanks ...I am going to try to post a picture of the old and new....and there was no snap ring on the old one...old one.jpg[/attachment]

Old one is on top with the bearing pushed to the spline.......New one is on the bottom with the bearing in the grooves ......I don't have a snap ring...Someone has been in there previously.....Thanks Dave

[pickerandsinger]

I put in red where the holes are and there is a trough the oil gets sling into to oil the bearings.

......I do understand that...I just am stuck on the bearing location problem... Dave