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How many OE Cubs left?

Postby rockfarmer » Fri May 19, 2017 1:09 pm

Hello,

While restoring my first Cub, I noticed it was impossible to keep the tractor original due to parts breakage, i,e. cracked block, broken ears, bolsters, etc.

In looking to restore #2 as close to its original form as possible, other than the date codes, what should I look for to confirm its originality? It is a 1949 serial # 79645.

How many of you have OE Cubs?

Regards,

Rockfarmer

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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby rockfarmer » Fri May 19, 2017 4:39 pm

I would like to submit some photo's of the '49 for those discerning eyes. I realize the alternator, coil and fuel line are replacements, but anything else that may not be original, I would appreciate you pointing it out.

Thanks again.



49 Left side front.jpg

Engine Serial 80322
49 Block.jpg

Touch Control
49 Touch Control Block.jpg

Front Bolster
49 Front Bolster.jpg

Right Final...Left final has the same info.
49 Right Final.jpg


49 Right Side.jpg


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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Soggyb » Fri May 19, 2017 8:20 pm

First thing I noticed is that the TC block is different different than on my 49' I'm told mine is an "early" block but I don't know the difference.

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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 pm

Here's a link to a database that was started by Trent M and is now maintained by Raymond Durban. It shows at what SN, what changes occurred: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87029
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sat May 20, 2017 9:12 am

Tim, I don't think the hose clamps had that worm gear in 49, more like 2 wires with screw on top.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Peter Person » Sat May 20, 2017 10:14 am

Mike in Louisiana wrote:Tim, I don't think the hose clamps had that worm gear in 49, more like 2 wires with screw on top.


TM Tractor still carries the Wittek tower clamps that were on the early Cubs.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Urbish » Sat May 20, 2017 10:36 am

Most, if not all, of the hex head bolts would be the dot-head (like those holding the hydraulic block onto your touch control). It depends on how original you want to get, but all of the bolts holding the plate to the final drive, the final drive to the cast extension, the rim to the wheel center, etc. are more modern grade 2, 5, and 8 fasteners. If you look elsewhere on your tractor you will probably be able to find more modern fasteners where dot-heads would have been used originally.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Urbish » Sat May 20, 2017 10:39 am

Also, despite it looking original, I would recommend getting one of the newer vented gas caps. You can get one shipped to you for FREE by submitting some info at http://www.ihgascap.com
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby rockfarmer » Sat May 20, 2017 3:03 pm

I have a friend in TN. His motto is "if its Free its for Me". Just ordered my FREE gas cap... thanks Urbish :hattip:

As for originality, I would like to get as close as possible, if not totally.

Dot Head bolts. Are they available?

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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat May 20, 2017 4:23 pm

rockfarmer wrote:Dot Head bolts. Are they available?

Not new, but guys save them when they part out a Cub. Ask in the Vine, but you'll need to know size, length, number, etc.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sat May 20, 2017 9:46 pm

I have a 48 that that has a decal that reads:

1948 model cub
1948 model owner
Not all parts are original
on either one.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat May 20, 2017 10:23 pm

John, I like it!! Replacement parts etc. like the commercial says, "better than new".
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby rockfarmer » Sun May 21, 2017 8:45 am

I just noticed, the right final has a cap over the seed gear. Is that normal?

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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Urbish » Sun May 21, 2017 9:06 am

rockfarmer wrote:I just noticed, the right final has a cap over the seed gear. Is that normal?


Hah, I missed that. No, that should have a big nut and an open cap with a seal that rides on the nut. JP Tractor salvage has both.
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Re: How many OE Cubs left?

Postby Waif » Sun May 21, 2017 9:52 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:I have a 48 that that has a decal that reads:

1948 model cub
1948 model owner
Not all parts are original
on either one.


Very nice.
My tractor ,like myself, is a patchwork quilt...


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