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Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
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- Bill Hudson
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Folks,
There has been a lot of discussion about snow plowing, so I thought that I would show you what I use here in the “snowbelt” of northeastern Ohio on the several concrete driveways I plow in the neighborhood (I get lots of coffee and way too many cookies). I have arrived at this setup after using various combinations of: no weights, one set of weights, two sets of weights, ag tires, turf tires, no chains, and chains. In all cases the tires were not loaded.
This setup (8.3X24 turf tires, two sets of rear weights, chains, and urethane cutting edge) is far superior to any other combination I tried. Great traction with minimal marking on the concrete (no one has even mentioned marking the concrete as a concern). The chains on turf tires are better than on ag tires since there are no gaps for the cross chains to fall into. I can easily plow at ~ half throttle, seldom do I need to throttle up for lack of power.
The chains are from tirechain.com, part #822255, RMI-Two Ladder Chain 2-Link, currently $271.12 (the same price as when I bought mine in 2014!!!!). This model has twice the number of ladder chains as the normal tire chain.
The yellow part, on the blade, is a urethane cutting edge from fallline.com, part #5000-300-422, Snowplow Blade Blank 60” X 4” X .75”, currently $72. I got this for two reasons: 1) it does not damage the lawn nearly as much as a steel cutting edge and 2) it makes no noise on a concrete driveway, something folks appreciate early in the morning. I have used it two full seasons and it is wearing better than a steel one, far beyond my expectations.
One final observation, a Lo-Boy has a shorter turning radius and would be much more maneuverable than the F-Cub.
Bill
There has been a lot of discussion about snow plowing, so I thought that I would show you what I use here in the “snowbelt” of northeastern Ohio on the several concrete driveways I plow in the neighborhood (I get lots of coffee and way too many cookies). I have arrived at this setup after using various combinations of: no weights, one set of weights, two sets of weights, ag tires, turf tires, no chains, and chains. In all cases the tires were not loaded.
This setup (8.3X24 turf tires, two sets of rear weights, chains, and urethane cutting edge) is far superior to any other combination I tried. Great traction with minimal marking on the concrete (no one has even mentioned marking the concrete as a concern). The chains on turf tires are better than on ag tires since there are no gaps for the cross chains to fall into. I can easily plow at ~ half throttle, seldom do I need to throttle up for lack of power.
The chains are from tirechain.com, part #822255, RMI-Two Ladder Chain 2-Link, currently $271.12 (the same price as when I bought mine in 2014!!!!). This model has twice the number of ladder chains as the normal tire chain.
The yellow part, on the blade, is a urethane cutting edge from fallline.com, part #5000-300-422, Snowplow Blade Blank 60” X 4” X .75”, currently $72. I got this for two reasons: 1) it does not damage the lawn nearly as much as a steel cutting edge and 2) it makes no noise on a concrete driveway, something folks appreciate early in the morning. I have used it two full seasons and it is wearing better than a steel one, far beyond my expectations.
One final observation, a Lo-Boy has a shorter turning radius and would be much more maneuverable than the F-Cub.
Bill
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Bill Hudson wrote:... (no one has even mentioned marking the concrete as a concern) ...
I beg your pardon!
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
The correct under slung muffler is crimped near the end so the exhaust is pointed down as it exits. You might check and see if you have the right one. Or possibly add an extension that takes it further out to the side.
Bob
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- Bill Hudson
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77 F-Cub - Red Long Stripe - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: OH, Madison
Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Don McCombs wrote:Bill Hudson wrote:... (no one has even mentioned marking the concrete as a concern) ...
I beg your pardon!
Don,
I apologize for the misunderstanding.
I needed to be more specific. "On the several concrete driveways I plow in the neighborhood" the owners of those driveways, "no one has even mentioned marking the concrete as a concern." I do pay attention to what I'm doing to minimize spinning the wheels whether on the concrete or lawn. Please note that I did not say eliminate spinning, I do occasionally spin a wheel but not often or for long.
Bill
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
No apology necessary, Bill. I was just pulling your chain a little.
- Bill Hudson
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Don McCombs wrote:No apology necessary, Bill. I was just pulling your chain a little.
I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to be sure that others understood my meaning.
Bill
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
I just don't use any chains haha. I guess it helps that I use a Super A so its a little heavier.
Mike
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- Stanton
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
I like your setup Bill. Looks to be a serious snow-moving machine. Thanks for sharing the pics with us (and Merry Christmas).
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Thanks. I suspected that might be the case.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
I think cross links work well with 45 degree again treads but not so good on the newer 23 degree tread.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
ricky racer wrote:I think cross links work well with 45 degree again treads but not so good on the newer 23 degree tread.
I have 45º tread. FedEx shows the duo chains I ordered as out for delivery today, so we should know very soon!
Jim
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- Bill V in Md
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
Urbish wrote:ricky racer wrote:I think cross links work well with 45 degree again treads but not so good on the newer 23 degree tread.
I have 45º tread. FedEx shows the duo chains I ordered as out for delivery today, so we should know very soon!
Jim
Did you order the 9.5 x 24 duo chains? I have not found anyone that sells duo chains for the 8.3 x 24 cub rear tires.
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- Urbish
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1958 International Cub LoBoy
1947 Farmall H
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2022 Massey Ferguson GC1723E Subcompact
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Manchester, MI
Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
9.5X24. I couldn't remember if I had 9.5 or 8.3 tires. I figured that if I had 8.3's, I could cut out a few links and replace them with quick links to effectively shorten the chains to make them fit. Turns out that I have 9.5's so these should fit without being modified.
Jim
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
I own a 55 and its set up just like the cub pictured on a earlier post , and the grill is even paint silver as well. When I bought my plow the seller threw in a set of new tractor trailer chains. They were to big so I had to cut them down , and I also use bungee cords to keep them tight. MY driveway is paved and has a curving hill on it. I've never been stuck on it going down or coming back up.....but you do have to watch out if the wheels spin , it will leave marks. I see these when my sealcoating the driveway in the spring. As I got use to the chains and the limits of the cub I seldom spin the tires anymore.
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Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Manchester, MI
Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains
So I put one on this evening. These are huge with 3/8" links. I have them adjusted as tight as they can go and still have a little slack which I know is okay. I have the rears spaced inward as narrow as they'll go. Will have to space them out 1 position to keep the chains from mangling my fenders. They seem to sit good on the newer tires though.
Jim
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