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Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Urbish » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:09 am

So with the new house comes a much longer driveway with some gentle grades. We got 9" of new snow yesterday and I plowed twice. The first time there was about 3-4" on the ground and all went well. The second plowing was very frustrating as I continually lost traction (45º ag tires, weights, no chains). So I guess it's time for some chains. Anybody have any experience with http://www.tirechainsrus.com? I can get duo chains through them for $225 (vs. $297 from http://www.tirechains.com) and they have free shipping which is another $50 savings. Current forecasts are for 10-16" this coming Friday and Saturday, so I need to act fast and don't have time to make my own chains.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:11 am

Be sure to get the ones made to ride on the lugs, straight cross chains fall into the valleys, and won't help. Might want to consider turf tires, to swap out, for winter. (Don't have to be fancy, just serviceable.) work better, with chains, than ag tires. (No experience with either company)
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Urbish » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:17 am

I went ahead and ordered from tirechainsrus.com. They're duo chains, so they shouldn't fall into the valleys too bad. If necessary, I'll modify with additional cross links as others on here have done.

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I'll report back on how they fit and work. I ended up beating the tar out of the tractor trying to find traction last night and don't want to go through all of that again every time it snows. Hopefully this is the solution to my problem.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:48 am

Those should serve you well. One word of warning... If your driveway is asphalt or concrete, any chain will mark it up.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Urbish » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:52 am

Don McCombs wrote:Those should serve you well. One word of warning... If your driveway is asphalt or concrete, any chain will mark it up.


My driveway is a mix of gravel, crumbling asphalt, better asphalt that is all cracked and failing, and concrete in front of the garage doors. I don't mind marking it up for the sake of ease of plowing. I'm pretty sure the harsh profanities flying out of my mouth last night probably made their mark too. :lol:
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:57 am

You could always back-blade the snow off of the concrete in front of the doors if you don't like the marks.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:02 am

Hope they arrive before the next snow!
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby cub&catman » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:23 pm

I can't figure out why guys have a problem with straight bar chains. I have used them since i got my 1949 cub in 1996 with ag tires and have used them on full side tractors on the farm with no problems with traction between the bars, on ice ,snow or mud . i run mine tight on my cub and cub cadet with a snowblower.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:29 pm

cub&catman wrote:I can't figure out why guys have a problem with straight bar chains. . . .

Take a look at the second and third pictures in this thread. You can see cross chains that have fallen between the lugs and are doing nothing. In this case, it looks like some of the other cross chains are still going over the lugs and doing something. If all or most of the cross chains slip between the lugs, the chains become mostly decoration.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:09 pm

The secret is you either need to leave them loose enough so that they sling out from between the lugs as you drive along, or you have them so tight they can't work their way down between the lugs.

On the big tractors you can't get them that tight, so it's almost like you're laying a track on the ground just slightly ahead of the tire for it to run on.

Those duo chains are very effective but VERY rough to ride on when you're going up the road in high gear with a load of manure.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby sevy » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:46 pm

I've got straight chains on mine with ag tires, and they work well for me. Not saying the other style wouldn't be better, but these were what I could afford at the time.
Having installed an all metal fuel line and then finally understood that the sight glass petcock shut off needed to be unscrewed all the way out to prevent air from getting by, my cub runs like a champ! I keep the revs up and do all of my snow plowing in second gear.
The only downside is that I have the muffler under the left side, and my clothes really stink when I am done. Would it be worth it to get an upright exhaust, or can't it be done if I have the lower style?

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby tnestell » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:07 pm

Along with the correct chains, one thing that really helped me was a second set of rear wheel weights. I might consider a third wheel weight on the right side.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby cub&catman » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:04 pm

IF you guys are looking at the picture of the tire with the chains, how many of you have this type of tire pattern on your cub? I have the ag type lug on the cadet and the cub and without the chains i could not back up . I get all the traction with the chains. with those construction tires they will go between the bars unless you have the special chains like you show.

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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Stanton » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:56 am

Urbish, you did well to order the duo-link chains. More likely to stay on top of the tire lugs and give you some grip. I noticed a world of difference after installing tire chains.
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Re: Snow Plowing & Tire Chains

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:35 pm

sevy wrote:The only downside is that I have the muffler under the left side, and my clothes really stink when I am done. Would it be worth it to get an upright exhaust, or can't it be done if I have the lower style?


It can be done. You'd need to install a new exhaust manifold and cut a hole in the hood.

There's no way the elbow is coming out of the old exhaust manifold, as it's been in there for decades, and it's rusted and carboned in place permanently.

Getting the hole in the right place in the hood, and cut cleanly, is a challenge. Most of the ones I've seen look like they were gnawed out by an angry beaver that was force-fed a case of Red Bull.

Then you get to deal with exhaust in your face. Usually people prefer the underslung exhausts.


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