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Deluxe seat

Postby john2189 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:25 pm

What's the going price for a deluxe seat? My 72 has a pan seat and after two hours of mowing, my sides start to hurt, I think it's arthritis. Was wondering if the deluxe seat would help.

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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby inairam » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:42 pm

Believe it or not, in the 50s the people developing the X planes for the space program asked IH to consult on seat design. IH did a number of studies on the frequency of the human spine and were considered the best seat designers at the time.

Personally, I prefer the seat pan, but make sure the spring/ guide mechanism is greased well. It was a night and day difference with respect to the comfort level once I did that.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby Slim140 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:45 pm

I agree with inairam, take your post apart and clean it/grease it good. Just take the two 5/16" bolts out, knock key out and it comes apart with ease. When I got on the '47 I been working on for the first time after doing this recently I couldn't believe the difference it made in comfort. I just pulled the one off our '49 today and cleaned it up and have it almost ready to go back on, it was awful compared to the other one and they are both pan seats.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby tst » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:10 pm

there is an oil hole in the cover that is inside the spring, keep it oiled through the hole and you do not need to take it apart to grease it

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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:18 pm

I like the deluxe seat, because of the back rest. My ancient bones seem to feel better, after using a cub with the deluxe seat, vs the pan seat.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby john2189 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:30 pm

tst wrote:there is an oil hole in the cover that is inside the spring, keep it oiled through the hole and you do not need to take it apart to grease it


I will probably have to mow once more this year, so I will lube it and see if that helps. Plus I will keep my eye open for a deluxe seat over the winter. John
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:40 pm

john2189 wrote:...... I will keep my eye open for a deluxe seat over the winter. John

You can try placing a WANTED add on THE VINE, Classified forum. I bought a couple from forum members. Both had to have cushions replaced. The DELUXE SEATS are also an aftermarket sales item.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby cub.bub » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:59 pm

ScottyD'sdad wrote:I like the deluxe seat, because of the back rest. My ancient bones seem to feel better, after using a cub with the deluxe seat, vs the pan seat.
Ed


:Dito: I have both, the pan and the delux, and for extended seat time I prefer the Deluxe.
I've seen the seat and brackets for sale quite often and go for around $150/200, but you can shop around like me. :lol:

I may be mistaken but I think switching from a pan seat to a deluxe will also require a shifter change to a curved one, some one will correct me if I!m wrong, but something to think about.

Good luck,
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:09 pm

Here's some info from the parts manual. :hattip:
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:11 pm

cub.bub wrote:
ScottyD'sdad wrote:I like the deluxe seat, because of the back rest. My ancient bones seem to feel better, after using a cub with the deluxe seat, vs the pan seat.
Ed


:Dito: I have both, the pan and the delux, and for extended seat time I prefer the Deluxe.
I've seen the seat and brackets for sale quite often and go for around $150/200, but you can shop around like me. :lol:

I may be mistaken but I think switching from a pan seat to a deluxe will also require a shifter change to a curved one, some one will correct me if I!m wrong, but something to think about.

Good luck,
Bruce

You are correct, the angled shifter is needed for the deluxe seat.
I hope to make a couple of modified, deluxe seats. No armrests, just the seat cushion, and a backrest. I have collected a couple of angled shifters.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:03 pm

[quote My ancient bones.
Ed[/quote]
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:17 pm

Mike in Louisiana wrote:[quote My ancient bones.
Ed

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT you old coot[/quote]
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby Super A » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:19 pm

I do not fall into the old coot category yet, but putting a deluxe seat on my '49 was the best modification I've ever done to it--even better than the cupholder! There's a reason why so many farmers updated to the deluxe seat back in the day......

Buy the new cushions from Steiner, etc. They're the closest thing you'll find to the original and they are comfortable. I think Steiner also makes a new seat frame for it, TM did make the mounting brackets but I don't know if they still do or not. I gave $200 or so for the brackets, toolbox, and seat frame several years ago.

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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby BIGHOSS » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:51 pm

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This is mine. Ten times more comfortable than pan seat.
Bought frame from member, powder coated frame and purchased new Steiner seat and back rest.
Total around $250.
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Re: Deluxe seat

Postby john2189 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:00 pm

The tractor had a curved shifter when I bought it. I put a tall shifter on it cause I couldn't reach the curved one that easy with the pan seat. I still have the curved one
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