Steering free play adjustment.

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Steering free play adjustment.

Postby Cub driver » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:12 am

I've got some play (nearly 1/2 a turn) in the steering and could not adjust it out according to some of the posts on here (the castle nut would only spread the open end wrench due to it being so tight already). So I've taken off the front axle so I can get a 6 point socket on the castle nut after I've loosened the pinch bolt at the back of the pitman arm. The castle nut seems very tight already, probably 100+ ft lbs and I've only moved it about 1/8th of a turn. This has had no effect on the excessive play. Any ideas? This is a 1965 lo boy. :help:

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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:15 am

Go ahead and take the steering box apart. You will need new internal parts. It isn't that tough. Before you take it apart, check the play from the steering arm coming from the box out to the tie rods and spindles. Could have some play there too. It all adds up big time!
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:17 am

Also, being that yours is a 1965 Lo Boy, make sure your tie rods are installed correctly to the center steering arm. I've seen some Previous Owners think that they were put on wrong and they switch them around. Post pictures if you can.
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:27 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:Also, being that yours is a 1965 Lo Boy, make sure your tie rods are installed correctly to the center steering arm. I've seen some Previous Owners think that they were put on wrong and they switch them around. Post pictures if you can.
There was a change in the orientation in 1957 I believe. My LoBoy is SN 4829J and was made shortly after the change which was to the steering arm.
steering tie rods.JPG

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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:07 pm

Thats it! I do have the other version before it was changed on a 1955 Cub LoBoy too.
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:52 pm

It's part #31 on the parts list page attached. Notice the right side has no hole in the top on the right side for the steering rod. The hole for the left steering rod is on the bottom right of the steering arm. Change was made at SN 4802, for Cub LoBoy.
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby BIGHOSS » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:27 pm

The steering gear arm has a bolt that runs crosswise that acts as a clamp to make the arm tight to the shaft. Did you loosen this bolt. The castle nut will not budge if it is still tight. This is a common mistake when trying to tighten the nut. Don't ask how I know this. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:56 pm

good point to bring up Hoss.
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Re: Steering free play adjustment.

Postby Cub driver » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:05 pm

BIGHOSS wrote:The steering gear arm has a bolt that runs crosswise that acts as a clamp to make the arm tight to the shaft. Did you loosen this bolt. The castle nut will not budge if it is still tight. This is a common mistake when trying to tighten the nut. Don't ask how I know this. :oops: :oops: :oops:



Yes, I did loosen the bolt, but still it didn't turn easily, like I said, 100+ lbs of torque to turn it. I think at this point, I'm just going to rebuild the steering gear. Thanks for all the help!! She's 51 years old, she's due for some new parts!


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