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Cub Points, Bending??
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Cub Points, Bending??
So.............I pulled the mag off Nimrod last night and got to messing with it. I kind of figured if I can learn to repair video game systems I can take the bugger apart and put it back together. I didn't go in the entire way but I did get to take most of it apart and see how things are. Interesting gadget. Got it back together no problem.
Now to the question.............the points are NO WHERE near to hitting flat. Maybe like 1/3rd of the tip of the points are hitting if that. I had read on another post or maybe yesterdays tractors that a guy "bent" the points so they hit flat. I've never run into that before on anything. They always just hit flat. Is that something common to the cub and is the guy correct to "bend" the points to get them to hit flat? I intend to repace all of that stuff but I want to learn something here maybe I never knew could be done.
Thanks in advance!
Now to the question.............the points are NO WHERE near to hitting flat. Maybe like 1/3rd of the tip of the points are hitting if that. I had read on another post or maybe yesterdays tractors that a guy "bent" the points so they hit flat. I've never run into that before on anything. They always just hit flat. Is that something common to the cub and is the guy correct to "bend" the points to get them to hit flat? I intend to repace all of that stuff but I want to learn something here maybe I never knew could be done.
Thanks in advance!
WV Mike
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
The proverb comes to mind, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I understand that it's your tractor and you can mess around with it to your heart's content. But you're post didn't mention anything about it not running good or sounding amiss. Granted, the points surface should be flat, clean and making full contact gapped at 0.013.
Guess my bottom line is that if it was running good, why mess with the points? Did you make sure you were at TDC on piston #1 before removing the mag?
I understand that it's your tractor and you can mess around with it to your heart's content. But you're post didn't mention anything about it not running good or sounding amiss. Granted, the points surface should be flat, clean and making full contact gapped at 0.013.
Guess my bottom line is that if it was running good, why mess with the points? Did you make sure you were at TDC on piston #1 before removing the mag?
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Stanton,
It wasn't running at all. I did a lower end rebuild and cleaned up the cylinder walls and put in a new set of rings. When I went to give it a test start up and to get some oil up through it, no spark at all to the plugs, yellow weak spark at the points. This problem was on an earlier post that I made.
I've never encountered points that don't hit flat right out of the box and never heard of bending points to get them to hit flat. My intention is to replace the coil, points and condenser and see what happens or find someone to do a full rebuild on the mag. I did bring #1 up to top dead center before I pulled off the mag. Notches are sitting at 8 & 2 just like they should.
It wasn't running at all. I did a lower end rebuild and cleaned up the cylinder walls and put in a new set of rings. When I went to give it a test start up and to get some oil up through it, no spark at all to the plugs, yellow weak spark at the points. This problem was on an earlier post that I made.
I've never encountered points that don't hit flat right out of the box and never heard of bending points to get them to hit flat. My intention is to replace the coil, points and condenser and see what happens or find someone to do a full rebuild on the mag. I did bring #1 up to top dead center before I pulled off the mag. Notches are sitting at 8 & 2 just like they should.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Some of the foreign made points are junk. I've encountered several broken springs, in the points, as well as bending. I get all my points from TM, and have had good results with them.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Yellow arc at points usually indicates a faulty condenser.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
ctltmp wrote:Stanton,
It wasn't running at all...My intention is to replace the coil, points and condenser and see what happens or find someone to do a full rebuild on the mag. I did bring #1 up to top dead center before I pulled off the mag. Notches are sitting at 8 & 2 just like they should.
My apologies, I missed your earlier post. I usually get my points at the local NAPA store and haven't had any issues with alignment. Sounds like you're on the right track.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Stanton do you happen to have the NAPA part number for the points or what model car or truck to tell them to look up? Ive bought some from NAPA for this things already. Also, are those specific to a 6V system or is it points is points? I would think the condenser might be, but you guys know better.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Mike, If you go to TM's site under new parts-electrical, it will give you the IH part #. NAPA should be able to cross reference that. If not, tell them it's for a C-60 engine.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Thank you Bob. I tried that with another part, but they were not able to cross it over. The Guy at NAPA was really nice and he claims they have a lot of IH parts on their shelves in the attic.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
My NAPA guy looked it right up. They even had the rotor believe it or not. Unfortunately, no coil................
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Also you can check McDonald Carb for coil and ignition parts. You can google it or search this forum should yield their a website.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
I got my mag coil from Brillman.
If only Mrs. Hoyt and Mrs. Clagwell had gotten along...
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
2 year old post but i'll comment anyway. I just finished rebuilding my distributor tonight, and noticed the same thing. New points are way off on an angle. I pulled the old points out of my junk bucket and they were worn on the bottom 1/3 of the pads. As an A/R engineer I cannot stand to see that, so i bent the stationary point to make them meet more parallel. Granted the points pads are slightly convex to help overcome any misalignment due to the arc of the moveable point, but they should at least get close to being parallel. Do others in this forum go through this trouble, or just get a set and install them? Thanks much everybody!
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??
Remove the points from the box at the retailer. If the contacts don't match up, don't buy.
I have gotten to the point that I open up the container at the parts store to make sure it's what I want. Also, take your old parts to compare with the new.
I have gotten to the point that I open up the container at the parts store to make sure it's what I want. Also, take your old parts to compare with the new.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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