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Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ctltmp » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:48 am

So.............I pulled the mag off Nimrod last night and got to messing with it. I kind of figured if I can learn to repair video game systems I can take the bugger apart and put it back together. I didn't go in the entire way but I did get to take most of it apart and see how things are. Interesting gadget. Got it back together no problem.

Now to the question.............the points are NO WHERE near to hitting flat. Maybe like 1/3rd of the tip of the points are hitting if that. I had read on another post or maybe yesterdays tractors that a guy "bent" the points so they hit flat. I've never run into that before on anything. They always just hit flat. Is that something common to the cub and is the guy correct to "bend" the points to get them to hit flat? I intend to repace all of that stuff but I want to learn something here maybe I never knew could be done.

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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby Stanton » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:49 am

The proverb comes to mind, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I understand that it's your tractor and you can mess around with it to your heart's content. But you're post didn't mention anything about it not running good or sounding amiss. Granted, the points surface should be flat, clean and making full contact gapped at 0.013.

Guess my bottom line is that if it was running good, why mess with the points? Did you make sure you were at TDC on piston #1 before removing the mag?
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ctltmp » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:00 am

Stanton,
It wasn't running at all. I did a lower end rebuild and cleaned up the cylinder walls and put in a new set of rings. When I went to give it a test start up and to get some oil up through it, no spark at all to the plugs, yellow weak spark at the points. This problem was on an earlier post that I made.

I've never encountered points that don't hit flat right out of the box and never heard of bending points to get them to hit flat. My intention is to replace the coil, points and condenser and see what happens or find someone to do a full rebuild on the mag. I did bring #1 up to top dead center before I pulled off the mag. Notches are sitting at 8 & 2 just like they should.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:47 am

Some of the foreign made points are junk. I've encountered several broken springs, in the points, as well as bending. I get all my points from TM, and have had good results with them.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby Eugene » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:47 am

Yellow arc at points usually indicates a faulty condenser.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby Stanton » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:55 am

ctltmp wrote:Stanton,
It wasn't running at all...My intention is to replace the coil, points and condenser and see what happens or find someone to do a full rebuild on the mag. I did bring #1 up to top dead center before I pulled off the mag. Notches are sitting at 8 & 2 just like they should.


My apologies, I missed your earlier post. I usually get my points at the local NAPA store and haven't had any issues with alignment. Sounds like you're on the right track.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ctltmp » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:09 am

Stanton do you happen to have the NAPA part number for the points or what model car or truck to tell them to look up? Ive bought some from NAPA for this things already. Also, are those specific to a 6V system or is it points is points? I would think the condenser might be, but you guys know better.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:33 am

Mike, If you go to TM's site under new parts-electrical, it will give you the IH part #. NAPA should be able to cross reference that. If not, tell them it's for a C-60 engine.

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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ctltmp » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:38 am

Thank you Bob. I tried that with another part, but they were not able to cross it over. The Guy at NAPA was really nice and he claims they have a lot of IH parts on their shelves in the attic.
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby ctltmp » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:46 am

My NAPA guy looked it right up. They even had the rotor believe it or not. Unfortunately, no coil................ :(
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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:18 am

Also you can check McDonald Carb for coil and ignition parts. You can google it or search this forum should yield their a website.

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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby LeeC » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:41 am

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Re: Cub Points, Bending??

Postby mva1958 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:59 am

I got my mag coil from Brillman.
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