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David Brown 880 - Location: Walker Louisiana
need opinions on painting
How is the best way to paint a tractor , sandblast or steam clean or wash and wire brush . I know a place they sandblast very cheep so parts I can remove this is good but what about sand getting in every thing ? I look at the brake holes and am worried about sand getting in side ?
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Re: need opinions on painting
Personally I wouldn't want to sandblast the whole tractor. It can eat into the seals and get into all the nooks and crannies as you mentioned like the brake holes. If you can get things removed and blasted that is a better way to go. I always start out with a good pressure washing to remove what oil/grease/dirt/grime I can. Sanding and wire brushing is the best to me but it does require more elbow grease.
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Re: need opinions on painting
I wouldn't sandblast a whole tractor, either. Even covering the seals ans other sensitive areas, won't stop it. During the dust bowk era, people taped the cracks around doors and windows, and could write their names in the dust, on the dining room table. And, the storms didn't produce 90 PSI. Some say, to soda blast, it's water soluble. That's fine, for the actual abrasive material, but the rust and paint particles, still get into the places you don't want them! Wire wheel, pressure wash, sanding, wire brush, on the main parts. Be careful with the pressure washer, near seals, too.
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Re: need opinions on painting
All the tractors I've done have been completely dismantled, wire wheeled to remove everything down to bare metal, wiped with alcohol or paint thinner, then primed and painted. Reassembled thereafter.
Take it slow and a piece at a time. It's not a jack-rabbit process; it's slow and time consuming. You'll need some space to disassemble and store parts.
Take it slow and a piece at a time. It's not a jack-rabbit process; it's slow and time consuming. You'll need some space to disassemble and store parts.
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Re: need opinions on painting
The more you remove from the tractor, the easier it is to paint and the better it will look when done. The parts you remove can be taken to the sand blaster if you're so inclined. A 4" wire cup brush on an angle grinder works well for removing paint and rust. Wear a dust mask because the old paint may have lead in it and safety glasses because wires will fly from the cup. If the tractors engine needs freshening up, do that first before painting. Painting should only be done after everything on the tractor has been fixed.
I wouldn't sand blast a complete tractor unless it was going to be a lawn ornament.
I wouldn't sand blast a complete tractor unless it was going to be a lawn ornament.
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Re: need opinions on painting
Sandblasted a complete farmall super H before. Was not my idea and was not my tractor. Sand got in everything. Starter has been repaired since(sand all in it), generator guit working(sand in it) and was replaced with alt, among other things. Lesson learned with no cost to me. Will probably have other problems in the future
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Re: need opinions on painting
Thanks for opinions was about what I thought . Will try to get it together and running then start with the painting . My foot was put in a cast so it pretty well stop work on tractor for now . Hope to get it off soon . All I need is the radiator install and to start . Priming the oil in the motor I was thinking to turn over by hand some , then use starter before trying to start . Any suggestion on this I used a good motor assembly lube .Is there any where I can see the oil priming ,some one said the oil filter holder?
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Re: need opinions on painting
housebg wrote::help: Thanks for opinions was about what I thought . Will try to get it together and running then start with the painting . My foot was put in a cast so it pretty well stop work on tractor for now . Hope to get it off soon . All I need is the radiator install and to start . Priming the oil in the motor I was thinking to turn over by hand some , then use starter before trying to start . Any suggestion on this I used a good motor assembly lube .Is there any where I can see the oil priming ,some one said the oil filter holder?
Theres a hole in the engine side of the oil filter housing. I prime through that, then spin the engine over, and if you see oil bubbling out, it's primed. Won't read on the gauge til the filter housing is filled and up to pressure. I use assembly lube, then prime as mentioned, put the filter cover on, and start it.
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Re: need opinions on painting
Squirt engine oil in the hole (halfway down, inside the oil filter housing) until it won't take any more. Put in oil filter and reinstall filter housing cover.
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Re: need opinions on painting
Just because you don't tear the tractor down to its individual components and sandblast them all clean does not mean you can't come out with decent results. Remember that the factory paint jobs were hardly show quality.
A steam cleaner is the best for getting old grease and paint off a whole tractor, and the safest too.
A steam cleaner is the best for getting old grease and paint off a whole tractor, and the safest too.
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Re: need opinions on painting
Matt Kirsch wrote:Just because you don't tear the tractor down to its individual components and sandblast them all clean does not mean you can't come out with decent results. Remember that the factory paint jobs were hardly show quality.
A steam cleaner is the best for getting old grease and paint off a whole tractor, and the safest too.
I'll 2nd this^^^^
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Re: need opinions on painting
Cub` wrote:Matt Kirsch wrote:Just because you don't tear the tractor down to its individual components and sandblast them all clean does not mean you can't come out with decent results. Remember that the factory paint jobs were hardly show quality.
A steam cleaner is the best for getting old grease and paint off a whole tractor, and the safest too.
I'll 2nd this^^^^
That's exactly how they were repainted (and a lot of them were) back in the day. A good steam cleaning, maybe some sanding on the rusty spots, and a coat of paint. I do agree the more stuff you can take off, the better. Also I found out products like Rust Mort are an easy way to kill the non "crusty" rust and help insure the rust doesn't come back.
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Re: need opinions on painting
I have never used the produce call rust more how does it work can you spray or do you use a brush
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Re: need opinions on painting
I've used a product called OSPHO, a phosphorus solution that is water thin and spray, dip, brush it on. Allow to completely dry and follow label directions, forms a paintable surface. Available at better hardware stores or do an internet search. Stan
EDIT: More info on their website: http://www.ospho.com/
EDIT: More info on their website: http://www.ospho.com/
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