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New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
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- Lee_Petrie
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1948 Cub w/fast hitch (early style depth control) being restored - Location: Joliet, IL.
New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Hello everybody ,
I don't post very often on the "forum" , with my mechanical knowledge I can generally figure my problems out ! Years ago, I installed a FH on my '57 (standard) Cub , but for some reason my FH (earth) plow ( stamped CUB ) is not "noise-ing down enough in the front, to dig into the ground ! "At most", it sits about 1" down in front siting on level ground . The "crank type" depth control, is lowering the front bail down , only a few treads left on the screw ,and the lateral link lower swivels are lifting the pull bar support, are positioned to lift the attached FH plow up in the rear , to its max ! Could something be bent, appears to be "straight forward" in design , but when I attempted to plow the "neighborhood garden" , the plow just skims along ( with the TC pushing downward on the plow ) , it is just removing about 2" of sod , with the depth control adjust to the max down ( in front ) position of the hitch bail assembly!
Thanks for all of your suggestions , I would like to try the garden again, when it "dies out " after our many days of rain ,
Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
I don't post very often on the "forum" , with my mechanical knowledge I can generally figure my problems out ! Years ago, I installed a FH on my '57 (standard) Cub , but for some reason my FH (earth) plow ( stamped CUB ) is not "noise-ing down enough in the front, to dig into the ground ! "At most", it sits about 1" down in front siting on level ground . The "crank type" depth control, is lowering the front bail down , only a few treads left on the screw ,and the lateral link lower swivels are lifting the pull bar support, are positioned to lift the attached FH plow up in the rear , to its max ! Could something be bent, appears to be "straight forward" in design , but when I attempted to plow the "neighborhood garden" , the plow just skims along ( with the TC pushing downward on the plow ) , it is just removing about 2" of sod , with the depth control adjust to the max down ( in front ) position of the hitch bail assembly!
Thanks for all of your suggestions , I would like to try the garden again, when it "dies out " after our many days of rain ,
Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Lee,
Can you shoot some pics of your setup? Pics are worth the proverbial "thousand words." In the meantime take a look at this http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38411. I look forward to the pics.
Bill
Can you shoot some pics of your setup? Pics are worth the proverbial "thousand words." In the meantime take a look at this http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38411. I look forward to the pics.
Bill
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Lee - Much like you, I tried the trial-and-error method. Finally, I asked for help and was directed to Bill's how-to he posted above. I followed the instructions and here's how it has plowed ever since ...
Trent McPeak
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Hi,
The older Fast Hitches had Depth Adjusting Links connecting the lever to the hitch bail. They are at the front of the Fast Hitch. The pins have to be in the holes at the ends of the links, for plowing. This was used on the Fast Hitch with the lever on the right side, for those of you with a lever.
Here is a page from the Cub owner's manual below. The pic is at the left bottom, not the right picture.
The height of the front of the hitch bail is what makes the plow go in the ground. It has to be low for plowing.
Also at the end of the 4th paragraph it tells where to set the collar on the lift rod. The rod is not used to push down, it will bend and you will ruin it eventually. Or the plow can hit some hard ground, and push up, and bend the rod. It says the plow should be free floating.
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20 ... e%2020.jpg
The older Fast Hitches had Depth Adjusting Links connecting the lever to the hitch bail. They are at the front of the Fast Hitch. The pins have to be in the holes at the ends of the links, for plowing. This was used on the Fast Hitch with the lever on the right side, for those of you with a lever.
Here is a page from the Cub owner's manual below. The pic is at the left bottom, not the right picture.
The height of the front of the hitch bail is what makes the plow go in the ground. It has to be low for plowing.
Also at the end of the 4th paragraph it tells where to set the collar on the lift rod. The rod is not used to push down, it will bend and you will ruin it eventually. Or the plow can hit some hard ground, and push up, and bend the rod. It says the plow should be free floating.
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20 ... e%2020.jpg
Last edited by Glen on Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- Lee_Petrie
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
A big thanks to you both , Bill & Trent, Several good thoughts and directions , including on the "collar spacing of 6", to allow the plow to "float" and the twisted tractor angle , to allow for the tractor's right rear tire being lower , while plowing ! Very interesting thoughts , Thanks for your help and directions , Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL
- Lee_Petrie
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Thanks, That is probably is my largest problem , I never had any "adjustable links" ! Are they the same size that was used on the earlier , control level units ? I installed a FH on my '48 ( with the lever ) , maybe I could just copy them, to install on my '57 with the crank style depth control ! That front bail has to go lower, to get the nose of the plow down , thanks for the advice on the thought of NO downward pressure on the FH, for plowing ,
Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
That's right about the twisted tractor Lee. That's why you raise the left side of the tractor. I did mine on a flat concrete slab, so the adjustments were easy to see. Notice in my video how the beam of the plow is pretty much plumb looking from the back while the tractor is "twisted," right side down in the furrow.
Also, yes, no down pressure. Mine is not fast hitch, so its just a chain that lifts it.
Also, yes, no down pressure. Mine is not fast hitch, so its just a chain that lifts it.
Trent McPeak
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
+1 on the "front down" too. My reversed drawbar darn near scrapes the ground when I plow at that depth.
Trent McPeak
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Lee,
For plowing, I'll take the Lever Depth adjuster over the screw type, hands down, no contest. The lever allows very rapid adjustment for plow depth in response to changing soil conditions. The screw type is not conducive to making adjustments on-the-fly, so you have to stop, make the adjustment and then start again. Besides the lever provides a very good handle to help an ole geezer get up on the platform.
Bill
For plowing, I'll take the Lever Depth adjuster over the screw type, hands down, no contest. The lever allows very rapid adjustment for plow depth in response to changing soil conditions. The screw type is not conducive to making adjustments on-the-fly, so you have to stop, make the adjustment and then start again. Besides the lever provides a very good handle to help an ole geezer get up on the platform.
Bill
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Hi,
I've never had a Cub with the crank adjustment at the front of the Fast Hitch. Looks like my info is only good for the older ones with the lever. Here is a page from the Cub parts book, there were no links like the older ones had evidently.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 009-08.jpg
I've never had a Cub with the crank adjustment at the front of the Fast Hitch. Looks like my info is only good for the older ones with the lever. Here is a page from the Cub parts book, there were no links like the older ones had evidently.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 009-08.jpg
- Lee_Petrie
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
It appears you might be correct Glen, links on the lever version of "depth control" ONLY , I found my parts book , doesn't appear to have links on the newer style crank type , OR COULD THAT BE A MISPRINT , omitted by mistake ? My older lever style has the links on the FH '48 ! It would be nice to know for certain if the crank style had originally had the links, or could they be added to get the bail closer to the ground ? Thanks for all the help, Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Early style had the links (straps), the late style did not.
- Lee_Petrie
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Hi Don, Thanks for the the input , " NO links needed" on my version" ! I just thought their was a easy way out of my problems, at full down with the "depth control" with the front bail ( crank style ) , their has to, AT LEAST, be a good 2" down to the nose of that plow blade, mine is less than 1" ? When I went through " pre-turned ground" , it traveled down 4" and looked decent , but when I went into sod ( grass ) at be it would only shave , the 1 " to 2" of basically grass !
A large "thanks to all" , for their inputs ! Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
A large "thanks to all" , for their inputs ! Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Lee,
What does your plow's point look like? If it's badly worn, it will just slide across the top of the ground.
What does your plow's point look like? If it's badly worn, it will just slide across the top of the ground.
- Lee_Petrie
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Re: New to plowing adjustments , with a FH cub !
Hi Matt, picture attached, point appears great but I do need to remove that build up of rust , on its face ! Even with that amount of rust , and the good looking point , it should make an attempt to start forcing its way into the old sodded grass , that they are planning to make into a garden ? Maybe, at best 1/2" to 1" nose down on a flat surface ! Maybe the soil is TOO wet , to let the plow dig down , I'm just guessing , I was never a farmer, just enjoy these little red tractors ! Lee Petrie Joliet, IL.
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