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Restoration Project - Four digit Cub

Postby Chipmaker » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:42 am

I am looking at a 1947 Cub four digit and am wondering what it is worth? It is # 144X and is in decent shape. Runs good with no smoke. Been sitting for a while. No welds on front end, radiator or rear axle housings that I can see. It has an original sickle mower on it with hand lift. The front tires are shot, rear hold air but don't match. It has part of the battery box, no lid. Has front lights and rear light bracket (no rear light). Fenders are as good as I have seen. Hood needs a little work around the muffler hole but otherwise is pretty good. Needs a grill screen. Still has the decals on the hood that read "McCorkick Farmall Cub". Has both sides that attach to grill. Can not see a "circle" decal on them but they look like they have extra paint on them. Not sure if I can do some cleaning/sanding and find them or not. Any help as to what this is worth like it sits? I probably won't restore it just put 4 new tires on it and get all the leaks stopped and in good running order.
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Bezirk » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:20 am

Location has a lot to do with average selling price , where I am located It would sell for $ 1500.00- 2000.00 with the mower.

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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:16 pm

needing tires......about $1,000
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:19 pm

Unfortunately, the low serial number doesn't help the value much, if at all.

If it was a 3-digit and the first number was a 5 and the second number was a 0 or a 1, and you were at a big collector auction, you might be able to "cash in" but most any other day of the week what you have is just another old Cub.

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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby ricky racer » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:39 pm

Matt Kirsch wrote:Unfortunately, the low serial number doesn't help the value much, if at all.

If it was a 3-digit and the first number was a 5 and the second number was a 0 or a 1, and you were at a big collector auction, you might be able to "cash in" but most any other day of the week what you have is just another old Cub.


I agree with Matt regarding the serial number. It's just another Cub, nothing special as far as that goes.
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby indy61 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:51 pm

What he said and the same goes for demo tractors.
I might pay a little more if the engine s/n matched the tractor but it must be in good condition, I think the early one's had problems with the castings breaking.
Not sure when the numbers quit matching and the circle decal was no longer used.

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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Stanton » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:46 am

If I remember right, the Circle Cub decal stopped just over serial #3500. Top the average Cub seller that won't mean a thing. In the Midwest, that tractor with working sickle would probably be priced around the $1500 mark.

Of course, if an seller thinks he has something valuable, the price will be higher and therein lies the challenge... :coffee:
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:13 am

Thanks to everyone for their input. I traded a shotgun for it and have way way way below $1,000 in it actually less than half that and we are both happy. I got to pick it up tomorrow. The only problem I have found is the engine has been changed. All the other casting dates are correct.
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Original sickle mower board.
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Clutch pedal with no adjustment on the outside. This was changed June 1948 at serial #32229. I had no idea until I signed up on here and was reading the database PDF.
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Transmission torque housing 4-22-Q
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Right axle housing 6-11-Q
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Left axle housing 6-4-Q
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Engine cast date 9-9-Z....so sad about this, oh well
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:14 am

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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:51 am

Some things fell thru yesterday after work and I was able to go pick it up. Runs great, no smoke and no out of the ordinary noise. Sickle even works, had to try it out.
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:55 am

When I got it in the shop the first thing I did was pull the oil plug and oil filter. Took the hood off so I can rewire it. Was looking at the head and found this. The head is 3-28-Q which makes it probably the original head. The block has obviously been changed, the block is the only casting I have found that isn't period correct. I got the date off the transmission but forgot to take a picture. It's 6-something-Q. I'll try and remember it today. When I got my 49 Cub it had welds all over both rear axle housings and the tranny was cracked and the front axle had weld all over it. I found good axle housings and a perfect front axle and fixed it even changed the tranny. I have not found a single weld on this 1947 tractor anywhere. With the shotgun trade, 2 new front tires and tubes on order and an oil filter I am in this tractor for about $458 so far.
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:29 am

Very nice. Check the casting date on the lower bolster (bottom side just above the axle I think). That is a commonly replaced part. You should get a good aftermarket OEM style wiring harness. This survivor tractor deserves it!
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby KETCHAM » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:42 am

Nice tractor....It will last a good long time......I'd keep it......good trade....shot-gun or a tractor will get ya places....I'd take the tractor.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Kevin
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1961 Cub Cadet Original
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Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:15 am

KETCHAM wrote:Nice tractor....It will last a good long time......I'd keep it......good trade....shot-gun or a tractor will get ya places....I'd take the tractor.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Kevin


I agree. I'd rather have the Cub than I had a shotgun in a safe I haven't shot in 6 years.
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1972 Schramm pneumapower
1993 Ford 4630 w/loader
1965 J.D. 110 round fender
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Making metal chips.

Re: Four digit Cub---What's it worth?

Postby Chipmaker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:17 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:Very nice. Check the casting date on the lower bolster (bottom side just above the axle I think). That is a commonly replaced part. You should get a good aftermarket OEM style wiring harness. This survivor tractor deserves it!


Thanks! I will check the rest of the casting dates when I put new seals/gaskets in everything. I will probably make my own wiring harness, yeah it won't be original but neither will a new aftermarket one. The harness on it now has to be original, it is shot!
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