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Steering Play

Postby Ian D » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:40 pm

Hi Folks
Can anyone advise me the best course of action to get rid of play (wear) between my steering worm drive gear and the big gear on my Cub steering?
When all bolted up I can move the output arm from side to side a fair bit without the steering wheel moving - this is play/wear between the two gears. I appreciate this is a 1955 tractor so there will be wear but as I am doing a concours restoration I dont want an end product with play in the steering - any advice would be greatly appreciated - can we buy re-produced gears? does anyone have an old trick to eradicate the play?
I look forward to hearing from you
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Re: Steering Play

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:15 pm

Ian, The first thing to try is to tighten the castellated nut on the bottom of the shaft in the steering box. You can often take up most of the play there. Be careful that you don't over tighten or the steering will be hard. Here's a post in which Ralph explains an easy way to tighten the castellated nut: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56212&p=463137&hilit=steering#p463137

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Re: Steering Play

Postby tnestell » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:33 pm

Thanks Bob

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Re: Steering Play

Postby Urbish » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:56 am

If you do end up taking the steering box apart, you can remove the big gear from the splined shaft and turn it 180 degrees before putting it back on. You can also remove the steering shaft and re-clock it as well before putting it back in. Doing so puts different teeth in mesh between the gears and will probably tighten things up significantly.

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Re: Steering Play

Postby artc » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:21 pm

there are three bushings in the steering that will need to be replaced to really tighten things up, plus the bushing on the end of the steering wheel shaft. rotating the steering segment 180 degrees will help as well.

you also need to look at the tie rods and the slop there. i think tst on this site has new ends to correct the play at that point.

and make sure you take up on the castalated nut as others have said above.

everything contributes to steering play.

i did steering on a 48 a couple weeks ago, one owner in the barn all its life, little use. changed the bushings and rotated the segment, removed shims from the tie rods. there is no play at all in the steering (i've never seen that before!) so it is possible to get to zero or negligible play.
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Re: Steering Play

Postby Scrivet » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:40 pm

artc wrote:....... there is no play at all in the steering (i've never seen that before!) so it is possible to get to zero or negligible play.
All work and NO PLAY makes for a very dull Cub! :lol:

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Re: Steering Play

Postby Ian D » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:36 am

Thanks everyone - much appreciated - I will try these things
Ian


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