This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Smoking cub update

The Cub Club -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
1948CUB
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm
Zip Code: 35487
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub
1971 cub
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Smoking cub update

Postby 1948CUB » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:59 pm

Well, it looks like the Sea foam treatment cleaned up the engine. It cleaned it so good it smoking
a lot worse now. Looks like I'm going to need a rebuild. Does anyone know of someone in central
Alabama that does rebuilds? Tractor cranks and runs great but a lot of smoke now. At high RPM's
I can see a little oil on the exhaust.
Thanks in advance for any help !

Danny

SPONSOR AD

Sponsor



Sponsor
 

User avatar
Barnyard
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 24266
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:39 pm
Zip Code: 45030
Tractors Owned: At This Time
40 Farmall Cubs (Round Hood)
2 Farmall Cub (Square Hood)
2 IH Cubs (Square Hood)
5 Lo-Boys (Round Hood)
2 Lo-Boys (Square Hood)
2 Farmall 404's
1 Farmall H
1 Ferguson 20
1 Cub Cadet 125
1 Kubota B-7100
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: OH, New Haven (Hamilton County)
Contact:

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Barnyard » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:04 pm

Has all the seafoam cleared from the system? Seaform will smoke like crazy until it is all gone.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.

Circle of Safety

1948CUB
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm
Zip Code: 35487
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub
1971 cub
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby 1948CUB » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:10 pm

I did change the oil but there is still some in the gas. I have added some gas to the tank
but I'm sure there is still a good amount in there. Will the sea foam in the gas look like
bad oil smoke?

Danny

staninlowerAL
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 4987
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:34 pm
Zip Code: 36558
Tractors Owned: Cubs: (3)'49's, (1 is for parts), (1)'57 IH Cub LoBoy w/FH, (2)154 Number Series Loboys, (1 is for parts), '76 Longstripe w/FH, Mowers: C-22, Bush Hog 412, Pennington 59, Woods RM42CF, Woods 42, assorted FCub plows, planters, discs, etc. OTHERS: '49 AC B & Ind. Sickle mower, '61 AC D12 Ser 2, '52 8N, '56 Ferguson 35 Deluxe, '47 & '49 Avery V, '53 MM BG (offset), '51 JD M (regular), '56 JD 420C, with Blade and fire plow, '85 JD 850 (Yanmar) w/72" belly mower, '76? Yanmar 2TR15 1500 & Bush Hog SQ42S-2 mower, '78? FORD Dexta, '86 FORD LGT14D & 48" Mower, (2)Cub Cadets & Mowers (MTD), (4) Sears Surburban's, other MTD mowers, Jeeps & other misc. "treasures"
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: AL (Southwest)

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:01 pm

How's your oil pressure? Smoke exhaust usually indicates worn rings. AlabamaFarmBoy is in your area and posts occasionally on the forum. You might try a PM to him.
Stan in LA (lower AL)
USAF & Reserves, Reg ARMY, ARMY NG (AL)

User avatar
Barnyard
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 24266
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:39 pm
Zip Code: 45030
Tractors Owned: At This Time
40 Farmall Cubs (Round Hood)
2 Farmall Cub (Square Hood)
2 IH Cubs (Square Hood)
5 Lo-Boys (Round Hood)
2 Lo-Boys (Square Hood)
2 Farmall 404's
1 Farmall H
1 Ferguson 20
1 Cub Cadet 125
1 Kubota B-7100
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: OH, New Haven (Hamilton County)
Contact:

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Barnyard » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:14 pm

If you still have seafoam in the gas it will smoke. Give it time to clear the system completely.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.

Circle of Safety

Scrivet
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 2929
Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:51 pm
Zip Code: 63664
Location: MO, Potosi

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Scrivet » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:50 pm

How long and how hard did you run it with the seafoam in the oil? You need at least an hour of working it hard, not just putting around.

User avatar
havoc1482
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 987
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:17 am
Zip Code: 01085
eBay ID: havoc1482
Tractors Owned: _______ 1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Twitter ID: @havoc1482
Location: Westfield, MA
Contact:

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby havoc1482 » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:17 pm

Just an FYI: Its 1oz of Seafoam to 1 gallon of gas. If you make a stronger mixture it won't hurt anything but it will smoke until its all cleared out.

The cubs tank is only about 7.5 gallons and a can of Seafoam is 16oz
Mike
Image

I bleed Black & Gold

IH Collectors Club New England (Chapter 18)

Western Mass. (The 413)

1948CUB
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm
Zip Code: 35487
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub
1971 cub
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby 1948CUB » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:23 am

Thanks to everyone for their reply!!

I probably added to much to the gas tank and I did run it but not extremely hard.
I will have another go at it and see what happens before I take major steps to rebuild.

Thanks again for the help!!

Danny

User avatar
Mike in Louisiana
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 7826
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:10 am
Zip Code: 71023
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: LA, Doyline

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:14 am

Have you done a dry and then wet compression test????????
Post the numbers
1975 cub (LouAnn) serial # 245946, 1941 John Deere Model H

Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. Will Rogers

thiggy
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 489
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 2:04 pm
Zip Code: 35216
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub
1949 Cub
2011 JD X320
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Birmingham Al/Bay Springs Ms.

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby thiggy » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:30 pm

Like Mike, I think you should do a compression check before you tackle anything more extensive.
Since retirement, the things I miss most are the holidays!

Matt Kirsch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 4948
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:04 pm
Zip Code: 14559
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Rochester, NY

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:35 pm

One more vote here to give it more time. Even if you dumped the fuel now, there will still be residual seafoam in the engine that has to burn off before you can make any sort of judgement call.

The smoke just means it's working at this point.

User avatar
gitractorman
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 2679
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:35 am
Zip Code: 14072
eBay ID: toysforjake
Tractors Owned: Lots of Cub Cadets!
1951 Farmall Cub
1977 IH Cub
1966 IH Cub
1965 IH Lo Boy
1964 IH Lo Boy
1949 Farmall Cub
Several IH 154 Lo Boys
1979 IH 184 Lo Boy
Simplicity 4416 Sovereign
Simplicity Conquest
Simplicity Legacy 4x4 Diesel
Mitsubishi MT180D 4x4 Diesel
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Grand Island, NY

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby gitractorman » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:05 pm

One more vote for running her more! Also, the Sea Foam tends to break up a lot of the carbon in the engine, and you'll see it in your exhaust. If you have a vertical exhaust, you may see it on your ceiling in your garage, or all over your nicely painted tractor hood....... Don't ask me how I know this!

Anyway, if it's running good, put her to work and let the Sea Foam keep working. A compression check is a good thing too, but if she's running, has good oil pressure, and not using oil, then put her to work!
Cub Cadets 682, 1811, 1864, Simplicity Legacy XL 4x4 Diesel with FEL, 60" mower, 50" Tiller

1948CUB
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm
Zip Code: 35487
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub
1971 cub
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby 1948CUB » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:37 pm

Thanks all !

I ran it for a while with the new gas in the tank ( 1 hour ) and she
is smoking but about 1/4 as much. I have noticed some oil spots
on the drawbar just behind the muffler. Its just a few but they are
there after the run. I guess it could be from the left over oil in the
muffler. Looks like a compression check is next. What should the oil
pressure read?

Thanks again for the help!

Danny

1948CUB
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm
Zip Code: 35487
Tractors Owned: 1948 cub
1971 cub
Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby 1948CUB » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:11 pm

Hi All,

Just got my compression tester. I did a dry test and all cylinders check 120.
Anyone have any ideas of more testing before I pull the engine? I figured I had
low compression but it seems ok. Could it be valve guides?

Thanks for any help!

Danny

Eugene
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 20370
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:52 pm
Zip Code: 65051
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Mo. Linn

Re: Smoking cub update

Postby Eugene » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:00 pm

Oil pressure. Oil gauge red and white zones. Cold engine start up, the needle should peg or nearly peg in the white. Hot engine, low idle, the needle should be above the red zone. Maximum oil pressure, around 35 psi.

Oil being sucked through the valve guides is usually not a significant problem with a flat head engine.

I wouldn't pull the engine with 120 psi, dry test, on each cylinder. Suggest working the tractor for an extended period of time.

What is the history of this tractor - engine?
I have an excuse. CRS.


Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 58 guests