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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby Mr E » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:31 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:
myusersname wrote:... It appears that unbolting the front steering casting with the radiator on it and separating it from the engine is the best way to go for this?? Seems like there would be a better way...


There is a better way. I use 3/8" drive socket and a ratchet with a long extension that reaches above the radiator. Works very well for me. No muss/no fuss.

Bill


Got a long extension for just that purpose. Works really well.
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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:42 pm

OK I will have to look at the fan assembly more closely. I didn't think the shroud would clear to take it out. Thanks guys.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:16 pm

myusersname wrote:OK I will have to look at the fan assembly more closely. I didn't think the shroud would clear to take it out. Thanks guys.

The shroud and fan will have to come out together unless you cut it. Reference my post about turning the shaft-- turning the nut will probably break the bracket that holds the nut then you will have more problems.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Success!!! I had a lot of trouble getting the little flat blade screws out of the fan shroud. With three of them out I had enough room to get at the radiator bolts with extensions and a ratchet. With slow and steady pressure I was able to get them all out without any problems. Then the radiator and shroud came out together. I was then able to put some real pressure on that last shroud screw and got it out too!! I actually had less trouble getting the old one off than putting the new one on. I did the stainless steel bolts as suggested. The new radiator came with a cork gasket. I tightened the bolts similar to a valve cover, but I'm not sure that it should be tighter. I mean this gasket holds all the water in all the time, so should I go a bit tighter? I did use gasket sealant too.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:33 pm

Lucky or Blessed? Maybe both. Glad it worked out for you. IMHO you should be OK with the gasket and sealer once it cures.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:41 pm

First day

tractor first pic.jpg




Threw some paint on her today since I had the radiator out.

new paint and radiator.jpg



I'm kinda making up my own paint scheme as I go. I plan on using the girl in my garden so I hope this will be the most of a tear down I will get to do.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:43 am

I think you have an incurable case of "rust in the blood", no cure but symptoms are relieved by acquiring another piece of rusty equipment. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:22 am

staninlowerAL wrote:Lucky or Blessed? Maybe both.


Funny I had a neighbor that was an old man. When I was a kid, I would go over to his shop and watch. He would be smelting aluminum and pouring engine parts for model T's, he was a real mechanic and could fix anything. At one point, I prayed for his help on the radiator... :lol: :lol: !

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:32 pm

myusersname wrote:Funny I had a neighbor that was an old man. When I was a kid, I would go over to his shop and watch. He would be smelting aluminum and pouring engine parts for model T's, he was a real mechanic and could fix anything. :lol: :lol: !

Sounds like he was pouring babbet bearings for the crankshaft. Lost Art, most people don't even know what you are talking about when you bring up this subject.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:44 pm

Yep he had all the molds. I found out much later in life that he was one of the best on the east coast for old A's and T's engine repair.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:11 pm

I've pulled three radiators on some real old tractors ('53, a REALLY crusty '51, and a '48 bolster), and haven't broken a radiator bolt yet.

Instead of just slapping a wrench on the bolt and reefing on it, use a hammer to tap-tap-tap on the wrench to get the bolt moving. A good wrench fit is a must. Use a 6-point socket or box wrench wherever possible. If the bolt heads are eroded, use the next size smaller socket in metric, and drive it on.

On the '51 there were three across the back that were so badly corroded, I had to weld nuts on them. Then they came out easy.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:59 pm

Back to the wiring/battery short issue today. I took the cap off the voltage regulator today. It looked brand new inside but one of the points was "arced" closed. Got it unstuck and the "short went away. I think this happened when I initially used a 12V battery to start her up.

Should I replace this one or just let it be?

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby bythepond88 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:52 am

My inclination would be to dress the points with an ignition file (not sandpaper), then check the air gap, then put the cover back on and see how she goes. If it arcs closed again, then replace.
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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:21 pm

Thanks BTP88. I have read up on the filing. This was my thought too, just didn't know if having it arc shut, was it still ok to just file and go.

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Re: Did I do any major damage yet???

Postby myusersname » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:00 pm

Filled her up with water today and ran her around a bit. The power washing and new paint job showed me that the oil pan has a small leak around the gasket. However there was also water dipping from the bell housing/engine connection point. It appeared to have some antifreeze in it but I'm not 100% sure. Is there anything that would leak water here? It could be water still in there from 3-4 days ago from power washing I guess but seems unlikely. It was definitely a small amount of water but wanted to run it by the experts! Thanks.


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