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Postby Patbretagne » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:57 am

Two little questions for the Electrical department.

1 I only have a 12 v charger, what can I put between the battery and the charger to come down to 6 volts, in paralel or series???

2 Legally on the road, here in france, we have to have what's called a Gyrophare, that is to say a revolving yellow light like the police's blue one. That's OK and almost acceptable, but they only exist in 12 volt, is there a "thing" that can be plugged in to make it go faster and brighter on 6 Volt?
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Postby Scott » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:04 am

maybe you could buy one of those 12 v motorcycle batteries and run it off that.
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Postby WKPoor » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:17 am

Pat, 6V chargers are so cheep it would be easier to just get one than try and modify your. Besides if you cut down the voltage you will then have to deal with the heat generated. Ohmite makes what you seek but the cost would far outway the benefit. I bought a charger just recently for $30.00. Does 12 and 6V. As for the light, maybe a 12v lantern would be more convienent if you are not using it long.

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Postby beaconlight » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:48 am

Pat what do you mean by charger? Is that what we on the other side of the pond would call a generater? If so I would use a 12 volt battery, put a resistor in series with the coil and replace my lamps with 12 volt bulbs. They can be obtained to fit in to 6 volt sockets. 6 volt starters will work well on 12 volt, if you don't crank them excessively. Of course if you mean a plug in battery charger I would still put in a 12 volt battery and either replace the generater or disable it. A cub uses so little electricity you could keep the battery up with frequent chargings.
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Postby Patbretagne » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:51 pm

No in fact I want to charge my 6 volt Cub battery with my 12v charger, I've looked allover for a cheap or non cheap 6v charger and ici it does not exist. I've wondered about putting a 6v headlight bulb in series with the charger battery.
It is not my intention to change Any or either of the running cubs to 12 volt.
The second question is also for the Cub when I am on the road, 12v girophars do not give off the rated number of flashes bright enough on 6v, I need to find a way of making it work on 6v with brightness and speed of totation, we'll get there one day :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks guys so far, if anyone else can chip in with their 2 cents of a Euro's worth I'd be happy to hear.
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Postby Bigdog » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:59 pm

Pat, putting a 6 volt headlamp in series with the battery will do the trick.
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Postby jim turner » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:56 pm

Pat jst a thought can you get into the lamp and change the bulb to a six volt bulb, if you could that would give you the brightness you need and it may also increase the RPM's on the rotater
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Postby beaconlight » Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:21 pm

Pat what voltage do you have in your part of france? If 110 or 120 I'll pick up a combo 12 volt 6 volt charger and send it to you. If you are 50 cycle I don't think it would be a problem. We use 60 cycle in the USA. You could always change the plug to fit.

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Postby Little Indy » Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:15 pm

Pat, can you get a gyrophare that is a self contained unit? Will a blinking yellow light satisfy the police? If that solves your problem , so be it. Yo would need to think where you are going to attact it to the cub.

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Postby Rudi » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:50 pm

Pat:

Sorry for not replying earlier, however family matters have been foremost in my mind this weekend. My neice Rachel has become the first of her generation to enter into the Holy Bonds of Matrimony yesterday. And today was the 50th anniversary of my Mother-in-laws cousin Pere Alban who was ordained this day in 1955 as a priest in the Roman fellowship....

Anyhoosie, that being as it may...

The 6 volt flasher problem - ahhh yuppp, :roll: been there, done that and solved it :!: :idea: :shock: :D Yup sure did. However, it was kinda dicey...

The older flashing lights that were mounted to much heavy equipment used a 12v flasher can/pot - the type that were 2 or 3 pronged - much like a flasher for a car's signal lights. This was before the fabricators moved over to solid state and then to LED's. The trick is to find one of the older units that are equipped with this type of flasher. Once found, then it is relatively simple to order from NAPA, UAP etc., a replacement 6 volt flasher unit and install it. That is what I did for the flashing light/girophare for Ellie Mae...

Best place to find one of these units is a local construction company repair facility, a heavy equipment dealer or service center, city or town works department or any other source of the amber units.. they do come in red and blue as well -- but that might be pushing it a bit.. eh :?: :roll: :oops: :roll: :lol:

That should about do it...

Let me know if you can find one. If not, I know of two more and maybe others that are available here.

Btw -- started a search for this stuff on the net -- I think I might to a How To on this subject.....

this is an example of what I mean by the 12v flasher pot

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I am looking for more info online. I will try to get the model number of the flasher that I have as well as a few pics if possilbe. Oh, the bulb is a standard 1133
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Postby Donny M » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:01 pm

Why not charge two 6 volt batteries at the same time :?: You do have more than 1 Cub :lol:
Jumper the negative of one battery to the positive of the other. Then put your charger on as if the 2 batteries were 1.

Charger pos to + -^+ - to charger neg. Well I tried :lol: :lol:
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