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59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby DonMountain » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:08 am

I have what I think is a 1959 International Cub LoBoy that we use for mowing the grass here on our farm in Mid-Missouri. Slowly the brakes have been going bad on it and I have adjusted the travel all the way out until now they don't work anymore. Unfortunately the 6' finishing mower deck on the Super C Farmal had a failure on the deck gearbox, leaving us with only the Cub to mow several acres. Can anybody give me a general description of what it takes to replace these brakes and what equipment I will need? And where is a good place to purchase the brakes? I appreciate the help.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:48 am

Final drives need to be removed, to access the brakes. Jack up the cub, wedge the front axle to prevent tipping. Left final drive has a short axle, right has a long one. Brakes remove easily, they pivot on a pin. I recommend TM tractor, a site sponsor, for parts. Other sponsors also have them.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby DonMountain » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:58 am

Thanks ScottyD'sdad for the info. I found the manual for brake replacement on this site and made a copy. Any idea what the weight on the final drives are? Can a couple of guys pick one off of the tractor or do I need an overhead lift of some sort?
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Smokeycub » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:59 am

ScottyD'sdad wrote:Final drives need to be removed, to access the brakes. Jack up the cub, wedge the front axle to prevent tipping. Left final drive has a short axle, right has a long one. Brakes remove easily, they pivot on a pin. I recommend TM tractor, a site sponsor, for parts. Other sponsors also have them.
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:Dito: TM has them. Here,s a link http://www.tmtractor.com/new/br/362fp.htm You'll need to remove the finals to replace the brake bands. http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20 ... 2%20(09-70)//Chassis/Page-160.jpg
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Eugene » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:10 am

Shop crane/cherry picker. You will probably need one to assist with the heavy items, removing tires and the finals. Normal assortment of mechanics hand tools will suffice. Jack(s) and cribbing.

I placed several sand bags (winter vehicle added traction) on the left tire when I was working on the right final.

Weight of the finals. Several years back when I replaced the brakes on my Cub, I removed and replaced the finals by hand, by my self. The left side wasn't a problem. The right side was almost more than I could handle. If I have to do it again, I will use the shop crane.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby DonMountain » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:12 am

Since I haven't had time to take it apart yet, is there a way to know what parts I need to replace in there? Can I see the brake bands from the outside somehow? Or is it a tear down and inspect and then order parts? Or would I be safe just ordering the brake bands and hoping nothing else is bad in there?
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby dgrapes59 » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:12 am

Hamilton Bob, also site sponsor, has them as well, at less than half the cost I doubt they are Case IH parts but they are pretty good about just selling quality parts.

http://hamiltonbobs.com/cart/product/br ... /cub-mm227

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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Eugene » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:19 am

I would tear it down first, before ordering parts. Consider replacing the seals on the side of the transmission/differential while you are there.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:31 am

If the seals are leaking, the brake linings could just be "oiled" up and not worn out. If that is the case, you can burn off the oil and may not have to replace the band. Also a possibility that the set screw and key have come loose and the brake drum is spinning on the shaft. As Eugene stated, it's best to see what you need before ordering.

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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Barnyard » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:39 am

Agree with Bob, it could be grease soaked. Here is Jim T showing how to burn them off several years ago at Stonethrow CubFest.

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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby DonMountain » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:58 am

Kind of a tough decision then. As this is the only machine I have available to mow several acres of grass and it keeps raining, making that tough to get done. And since my "helper" is off to help her ill, elderly mother for several days at a time this leaves me with taking care of the farm and trying to do these necessary mechanical jobs also, without much time to do them. So, should I keep mowing the grass on this hilly terrain without brakes? Since it is at least a two-person job?
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:06 pm

If you can ID the parts needed for the deck gearbox on your Super C tractor and post an wanted notice on THE VINE subforum, someone might be able to help you get it repaired and back in operation. Then you could tackle the CUB brakes problem.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:52 pm

mountain4don wrote:Kind of a tough decision then. As this is the only machine I have available to mow several acres of grass and it keeps raining, making that tough to get done. And since my "helper" is off to help her ill, elderly mother for several days at a time this leaves me with taking care of the farm and trying to do these necessary mechanical jobs also, without much time to do them. So, should I keep mowing the grass on this hilly terrain without brakes? Since it is at least a two-person job?

Parts from TM and Hamilton Bob, usually are at your house, in 3 days. Mow again, then tear down and order what you need. Can be back together in a day or 2.
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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Glen » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:14 pm

Hi,
Here are pictures from TM Tractor of the right final drive for a LoBoy. The 3rd pic down shows where the brake goes in it. It shows the oil seal also. There is a seal on each side of the brake drum basically. So 2 seals on the left and 2 seals on the right. I would replace all 4 seals, if you are replacing both brakes. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/glb/rhdrive_001.htm

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Re: 59' Cub LoBoy Brakes

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:26 pm

Here is a post from the HOW TO section:
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=78436

Although the finals CAN be lifted by one person, the engine hoist certainly makes lining things up easier, with less chance for damaging the new seal when reinstalling the final. It also makes reinstalling the wheel/weight assembly a lot easier as well. Post with any questions and good luck!
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