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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby clintmo » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:30 pm

Very slick, Yogie. Beautiful Cub, too! What's going on in the bottom pic? Also, how did you lengthen the drag bar?

I improved my situation a bit by getting a new bolt and cupping out the end a bit and grinding a sharper edge around it. I also have a regular nut in place as a jam nut. I tightened it down as much as i could and locked it in place. It's stayed put for an hour or so of mowing so far. I enjoy using this mower a great deal. So efficient.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby DickB » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:03 am

Yogie wrote:
clintmo wrote:
Smokeycub wrote:I can't imagine the drag bar support falling out even if it wasn't bolted, they are a real bear to install. Anything's possible I suppose.


Notice the state that Yogie and I are posting from. These West Virginia hills have everything to do with it.

Yogie, I'd like to see pics of those mods. Sounds pretty solid.

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Really impressive, Yogie. Cannot,however, figure out that triangular piece with the eyebolt in it, the chain coming on to it and going on up to the TC lever arm. What's it? And really like the all blue of the sicklebar set up. Thinking to make that red-to-blue repaint a project here. Thanks for photos.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Yogie » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:20 pm

Thanks, I have that triangle piece on all of my mowing tractors. Not sure but I think you could buy them at one time. When hauling my tractors I lift the blade flat handed against the cutter bar while up and hook the link on this triangle then let the weight off of the hydro. This part holds all the weight when not using the mower making it easier on the system. Once my tractors are parked I usually unhook from the triangle and let the whole weight sit on a large block of wood.
This part is really nice when your hauling your tractor and things are bouncing around... Got to be easier on the hydro system. :wink:
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Scrivet » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:13 pm

The triangle part (cutter bar support) is made for a fast hitch tractor to hold the mower in a stationary position (up) so you don't have to remove the sickle mower to use the fast hitch for something else. Such as if you went to blade your driveway with a one point blade, every time you lowered the blade the sickle would go down as well.

When I'm hauling something, the implement, loader bucket, bush hog etc. gets lowered onto the trailer deck, not hanging in the air from the hydraulics or suspended from a chain. There's not many places it can go from there. It gives me more surface area touching on the trailer deck. More surface area, more friction, harder to move.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Yogie » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:29 pm

Lowered to the trailer deck and cub 22 mower would then catch about every road sign you passed....
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Scrivet » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:12 pm

Yogie wrote:Lowered to the trailer deck and cub 22 mower would then catch about every road sign you passed....
Really???? You think I'm advocating lowering the sickle bar into the cutting position on a trailer when transporting a Cub 22 attached to a Cub? :? My sincerest apologies, I never imagined someone could or would read that into my statement. What I should have said was to lower the hydraulics with the sickle in the TRANSPORT position since you are transporting the mower from one location to another.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Yogie » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:00 pm

Sorry for the misunderstanding Scrivet, with my mower up the cutter bar leans out a good foot or more on the end. Letting it down to the floor that way would set the top end out a good 3 feet off the side of the trailer.
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby FarmallCubby1949 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:07 pm

I really like the way your Cub and sickle mower look. Very nice indeed. That sickle does an awesome job. I'm from South Western PA near the OH line and Nothern Panhandle of WV. We have the same layout here with the hills.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Glen » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:23 pm

Hi Clintmo,
Here's what I use for the front rod on my Cub 22 mower. It is a big set screw, with a square head. It has a hollow, pointed end. This digs into the square bar, and holds it in position. It needs retightening after some use, the point keeps working into the bar. It holds good though.
My Dad bought it somewhere, I don't know where. The threads are 2 inches long. Use a lock nut too.
I have the triangle shaped piece on my Cub to hold up the mower, it is for using the Fast Hitch. It is part of a package of parts IH sold years ago for using the Cub 22 mower with a Fast Hitch. :)
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby clintmo » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:10 pm

Thanks for the info, Glen. That looks a lot like what Don posted a link to earlier. I sort of got the same effect with my modified bolt. Haven't gotten to mow long enough to know how well it will hold up but early tests were promising.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby DickB » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:24 am

The special bolt/nut is available at the IH-Case dealer. I bought one there last summer.

Yogie and Scrivet: If I understand you guys right, I'll be able to save the grass around the house. Seems that when I have the sicklebar on the Cub and, say, a cart or a rear carrier on the Fast Hitch, and I lower the Touch Control for some reason that relates to the FH, and...there I go!...sicklebar's digging up the grass all over the place before I realize it. So it seems like what you're describing is that triangular piece holds the sicklebar up off the ground (bar held upright) and the lift mechanism to the TC rocker arm is disconnected so the sicklebar isn't moving up/down. It stays up while the FH goes up/down. And the grass doesn't get roughed up. Have to see if the local IH-Case dealer has that cutter bar support.

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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Criswell » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:57 am

DickB wrote: It stays up while the FH goes up/down. And the grass doesn't get roughed up. Have to see if the local IH-Case dealer has that cutter bar support.


Part number 456 850 R1, unfortunately, no longer available. If someone that has one would be willing to post some measurements or drawings, that would most definitely be appreciated. This looks to be a fairly easy piece to make and a piece that I do not have but would like to have.
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby twotone » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:46 pm

I'd like to know how to get my cutter bar to stand up straighter when in travel position. mine hangs out pretty far.
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:15 pm

If you'll reference Yogie's picture above, here are the dimensions of the one I have. I'm not positive that it is OEM as one corner (lower right) comes to a point and is not cut off like Yogie's.
The piece is made of 1/2" plate
top edge (notch to left and hole on right): 6 1/2"
right edge (two holes): 6 1/2" to pointed corner
bottom side: 8 1/2" to cut corner, 1" is cut off the corner. The notch is not perpendicular to the top side but is angled towards the top bolt hole.
center of notch to center of top hole (probably not a critical dimension): 4 3/4"
the two holes are 4" center to center to match the bell housing implement pad holes
holes are 5/8" D, notch is 1/2" D
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Re: First big mow with the sickle mower

Postby cubbrian » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:55 pm

I picked up a NOS plate at a red power round up a few years ago. I can bring it with me to the cubtug if anyone wants dimensions.
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