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Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
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Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Over the years, I've acquired bits and pieces of several Cub-22 Sickle Mowers and am ready to build a good one. The original one that came with my 1949 was used very hard: broken several times at the front mount, inner and outer shoes built-up with old truck springs, wide variety of guards, wear plates down to nothing, hinge pins/holes oversize... you get the picture!
The few good parts are the drag link, stay rod with crank, a Pitman Arm(plain bushing box end) that is complete but cracked, top-to-bottom drive belt guard and PTO pulley.
In my other collection of parts, there are many good replacements for the bad ones above plus the front drive shield and a ball-bearing box end but with bad wood.
It is very interesting studying the 'upgrades' between the "early" dark blue mower and the "later" parts that were originally red the repainted yellow. If anyone is interested, I've got many pictures.
On a whim, I contacted my Case/IH dealer and was able to get the M32933 Felt Washers to rebuild the ball-bearing box end through the "Depot" but struck-out on the 451 392 R11 Pitman Wood!
Any of you'all making the Pitman Wood or know where to get one? If worse comes to worse, I'll dust off my wood working skills and whittle one out!
Thanks... don p.
The few good parts are the drag link, stay rod with crank, a Pitman Arm(plain bushing box end) that is complete but cracked, top-to-bottom drive belt guard and PTO pulley.
In my other collection of parts, there are many good replacements for the bad ones above plus the front drive shield and a ball-bearing box end but with bad wood.
It is very interesting studying the 'upgrades' between the "early" dark blue mower and the "later" parts that were originally red the repainted yellow. If anyone is interested, I've got many pictures.
On a whim, I contacted my Case/IH dealer and was able to get the M32933 Felt Washers to rebuild the ball-bearing box end through the "Depot" but struck-out on the 451 392 R11 Pitman Wood!
Any of you'all making the Pitman Wood or know where to get one? If worse comes to worse, I'll dust off my wood working skills and whittle one out!
Thanks... don p.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Did not know CaseIH no longer sells them. I got one from them bout a year ago. Wish I had bought a couple more.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
many aftermarket suppliers have nice ones for around $20, such as A&I, webbs sickle service, just put the part# in your search and it will pop up
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Being a cheap (*^$@&, I have made my own. Not difficult, if you have one to copy.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
easy to make with a pattern. I made 1 from oak and 1 from maple.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Here's a link to a sketch with dimensions if you want to make one: http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Sketch ... 0Mower.jpg
I've found square oak stair spindles/balusters that just need to be planed down a little to the right dimensions. You can pick through the bin and find nice straight grain. If you buy one, just make sure the length and hole spacing is correct.
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I've found square oak stair spindles/balusters that just need to be planed down a little to the right dimensions. You can pick through the bin and find nice straight grain. If you buy one, just make sure the length and hole spacing is correct.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
I cut my own too... Being out here in the west, I use clear Douglas Fir. Works great!
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
451 392 R11 ?? Try 451 391 R1 instead (drop the last "1"). Messick's shows one in stock at $27.69 (ouch). Otherwise, I might go with Sickle Service ($21.47). They did not used to carry the one for the cub, so that must be a fairly recent offering.
https://www.sickleservice.com/parts/mower-parts/wood-c-ih-cub-22-34-oem-451-392-r1.html
https://www.sickleservice.com/parts/mower-parts/wood-c-ih-cub-22-34-oem-451-392-r1.html
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Drop the last 1 like lee said. The 451391r1 should be a good part number, local prices will vary, Messicks will be a roughly average price.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Sledge hammer handle works well too
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Thank you all for the info on Pitman arm wood!
I pulled the 451 392 R11 number out of the "Owner's Manual, Cub-22 Mower", 1 005 673 R5, dated 1-27-51 15B, shown on both P19 and P23. My initial searches kept coming-up with everything but the R11... makes sense now!
Using the R1, things got much better: sources, tips and encouragement to build my own.
I've removed the yards of duct tape off the cracked one, the better of the two I have, and it'll serve as my pattern. Out of curiosity, the Pitman Arm that came with the pile of junk 'implement blue' early mower was in original white paint. The red, then over-painted yellow, mower I'm salvaging also had a white Pitman Arm under the colors... are the arms painted white from end-to-end?
Where are the "Originality Police" when you need one?
don p.
I pulled the 451 392 R11 number out of the "Owner's Manual, Cub-22 Mower", 1 005 673 R5, dated 1-27-51 15B, shown on both P19 and P23. My initial searches kept coming-up with everything but the R11... makes sense now!
Using the R1, things got much better: sources, tips and encouragement to build my own.
I've removed the yards of duct tape off the cracked one, the better of the two I have, and it'll serve as my pattern. Out of curiosity, the Pitman Arm that came with the pile of junk 'implement blue' early mower was in original white paint. The red, then over-painted yellow, mower I'm salvaging also had a white Pitman Arm under the colors... are the arms painted white from end-to-end?
Where are the "Originality Police" when you need one?
don p.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
"Where are the "Originality Police" when you need one?"
They like to wait until you get it all prettied up, then they pounce.
They like to wait until you get it all prettied up, then they pounce.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
In General,
In making that sort of stuff you need wood which is strong yet not brittle so that it can stand a shock. A forum member mentioned a sledge hammer shaft, which is suitable. The shorter the grain in the timber usually means it is more brittle and more inclined to break on subjection to shock. So Oak Ash or Larch would be ok.
Bernard,
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In making that sort of stuff you need wood which is strong yet not brittle so that it can stand a shock. A forum member mentioned a sledge hammer shaft, which is suitable. The shorter the grain in the timber usually means it is more brittle and more inclined to break on subjection to shock. So Oak Ash or Larch would be ok.
Bernard,
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
The "R11" part number was evidently an error in the Owner's Manual and remained uncorrected through multiple versions. The Parts Catalog shows the "R1" number. I find no indication that "451 392 R11" ever existed as a legitimate part number.
The entire pitman arm would have been painted cream through 1956, white after 1956.
The entire pitman arm would have been painted cream through 1956, white after 1956.
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Re: Cub-22 Pitman Wood?
Jim Becker wrote:The entire pitman arm would have been painted cream through 1956, white after 1956.
While not necessarily historically correct, I leave my pitmans (or other wood implement parts) unpainted, and just coat with linseed oil. I like the way it looks, and I don't have to worry about paint obscuring defects.
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