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mounting front tires

Postby Rob in NH » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:00 pm

i was wondering if there are any tricks to mounting front tires? thanks
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:04 pm

My trick is to take it to my local tire store! Works like a charm, and sure saves a lot of aggravation!!! :big smile:

Not very expensive, either.

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Barnyard » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:12 pm

There is a post on how to do it in the How To forum.
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Rob in NH » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:27 pm

thanks bill, i'll check that out. dale i may do it your way too.
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Papa's Cub » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Rob in NH, I have to give a thumbs up on Dale's idea. At my age with a bad back and two wore out knees that's the only option I'd have. Good luck, Tom.
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:23 am

I've found that elevating the job to waist level really helps. A shipping pallet on a trailer works well and will allow the rim to be secured with a long bolt to keep it from sliding also makes the job easier. Use some type of thick soap to lube the tire bead and the first half of the job will slip on without any tools. I like to clean and paint the rims if needed which means two trips to the tire shop. For me, that's an extra 40 miles of driving.

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:28 am

I use a Harbor Freight tire machine. Occasionally pinch a tube, even with that. Tire shop can probably do it, for the price of a replacement tube!
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:31 am

ScottyD'sdad wrote:I use a Harbor Freight tire machine. Occasionally pinch a tube, even with that. Tire shop can probably do it, for the price of a replacement tube!
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Locally the tire shop charges about $25 for replacement tube and labor but they won't clean and paint the rim.

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby bythepond88 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:13 pm

I second Dale's method. I spent most of an afternoon wrestling with a front tire. The first side went on without a problem, but I just could not get the second side over the rim, even with help from a neighbor.
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby artc » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:30 pm

I mount them from the back side so you won't scratch the paint on the side you commonly see. it makes it a little harder to get the tire valve in place that way. lube the tire, put the first bead on (being careful to get the bead down into the deepest groove of the rim), insert the tube and use a holding device to prevent it from disappearing into the rim, and then do the second bead, again being sure to get the bead down into the deep groove.

a couple of tire tools from Miller tire help - a lot! work the bead over using one tire spoon and then put the other one next to it, and rotate the rim into the tire as you go. switch to the other side if needed. and make sure you kneel on the tire to hold the bead down into the center groove (that is the key).

or make two trips to the tire shop :lol: :lol:
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby dgrapes59 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:53 pm

I use a combo of two methods, I have a manual tire mounting tool, similar to the Harbor Freight one, I take the tires off with it. I can then clean and paint the rim at my pace. Then I take it to a tire shop and get them mounted for a few bucks each ($6 I think). After pinching a new tube and the aggravation I figured it was worth it, the shop is not too far away and so far, no significant paint damage.

I do mount Cub Cadet 8" fronts like Art described and rears if I am remounting used tires or tubes (mental thing I guess).

I put baby powder on the tube and it is always good to air up to seat the bead then let the air out to make sure the stem is straight and any wrinkles in the tube go away.

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby fletchman919 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:38 pm

I have alot of experience mounting all types of tires, but mostly dirtbike tires. There's a good chance that you will puncture a tube on your first couple attempts. That said, I think it's a great learning experience and a valuable skill to learn. You may get it on your first try, if you're careful. I understand taking it to a tire shop, but I wouldn't feel right if I didn't encourage you to try yourself. The only time I go to a tire shop is when I buy new tires for my vehicles and they do it for free. :)

Check out this video. It's a dirtbike tire change, but the process is the same. Bike tires are usually more difficult and look how easy the guy in the video is working. It's actually not that difficult if you follow the proper process. If you're struggling, then you probably don't have the opposite side of the tire down far enough in the rim.

*EDIT: I posted wrong link. It's the video that's 23 minutes long.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0 ... 328-s&fp=1

If you have a hard time breaking the bead on an old rusty rim (for removal), you can carefully drive your vehicle over the tire and use the weight of the vehicle.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Mortgaged » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:24 am

These days, most of my tires get mounted by the local Lawn & Garden or tire shop. The price they charge is well worth the $$ spent and I typically can drop off at lunch and pick up on my way home. Cash sales help too!

However, when I can't wait or am too impatient, one trick I use on any tire that I mount is to get out the heat gun and warm up the tire. Both on the inside and outside of the tire, with a little more concentration on the bead area that has to stretch over the rim. Don't leave the gun in one spot and melt the tire just get it hot to the touch by moving over and around the surfaces. Then use warm/hot soapy water when putting it on the rim and it will go on MUCH easier.

I tested this idea out of necessity probably 10-12 years ago while trying to get on a 12" knobby in the winter. It was so cold that tire was like a rock. Having used hot water and/or my heat gun in the past to get hoses to soften up for installation, I thought I'd give it a try and it worked great! Unfortunately my knuckles were already beat up, but it definitely reinforced the idea and I've used it ever since.

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Re: mounting front tires

Postby bythepond88 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:51 am

Mortgaged wrote:However, when I can't wait or am too impatient, one trick I use on any tire that I mount is to get out the heat gun and warm up the tire. Both on the inside and outside of the tire, with a little more concentration on the bead area that has to stretch over the rim. Don't leave the gun in one spot and melt the tire just get it hot to the touch by moving over and around the surfaces.


I cannot say that I would recommend this procedure. Some time ago there was a post about welding rims with the tire still mounted. Apparently, heat continued to build in the tire to the point where it exploded. Seeing that caused me to cease my practice of seating tubeless tires with ether.
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Re: mounting front tires

Postby Mortgaged » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:13 pm

Please re-read my statment/directions. When you're heating the tire, it's not mounted on the rim. Using very basic common sense, there's Zero chance that you're going to melt it to the rim or explode the tire. Further, there is no exothermic reaction going on that would cause the tire to continue to heat and melt itself to the rim.

As far as ether or propane goes, spend a little time at your local truck/farm tire dealer and you'll see plenty of this in use to seat the tires. Granted these guys are experienced and do it on a regular basis so I definitely wouldn't (and didn't) recommend this practice.


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