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Won't move

Postby ArtN » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:08 pm

First pretty day in a long time and needed to pull my pontoon away from the fire pit. I have had it parked in the back yard for the winter and hooked to the pontoon. Got her started no problem and she runs great but does not move forward or back kinda like the clutch is not moving or stuck. It can't be froze up it is too warm about 60. Any ideas?

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Re: Won't move

Postby Eugene » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:23 pm

Can you move tractor if you take it out of gear?

Could still be iced up transmission.
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Re: Won't move

Postby ArtN » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:15 pm

Not by hand and it is on a slope. Have not hooked the chain or truck up to it yet.

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Re: Won't move

Postby Scrivet » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:11 pm

ArtN wrote:...... Have not hooked the chain or truck up to it yet.
When you do that at least you'll have a better idea of what the problem was. It most likely will be one of the parts you break. Do I need to say THAT IS A REALLY BAD IDEA!

If the transmission was froze it would kill the engine when you let the clutch out. (takes a while for a block of ice to melt)

If the clutch is not working the PTO won't spin when you engage the PTO with transmission in neutral and let the clutch out.

The clutch isn't stuck or you would have moved the boat when you started the Cub or you couldn't get Cub out of neutral with out grinding the gears.

This shouldn't be hard to figure out without the need to break something. Sounds like a clutch finger problem or a clutch facing problem.

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Re: Won't move

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:22 pm

Pull the top cover on the transmission and make sure it's not stuck in two gears. if that is not It maybe the ice.
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Re: Won't move

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:11 pm

Not move as in kills engine when try, or let clutch up and nothing happens?
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Re: Won't move

Postby ArtN » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:29 am

Let clutch up and nothing happens John. Does not kill engine at all. To me it is like the clutch is stuck in an open position and not releasing all the way when you let the clutch out. Seems to shift threw gears fine.

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Re: Won't move

Postby challenger » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:57 am

If the spline on the drive shaft and the clutch disk are rusty or gummed up you may have pushed the clutch pedal down, depressed the pressure plate, and the disk moved back and is now binding or somehow stuck back short of the flywheel and the pressure plate is unable to push the disk forward against the flywheel. I'm not sure how this could happen. Do you hear any unusual sounds when you push the clutch pedal down? I would try taking a can of brake cleaner with a nozzle on it and try to spray it where the drive shaft spline and disk hub meet. Then pull the clutch pedal all the way down with your hand and quickly let go of it, allowing it to snap back on its own accord a few times. If you decide to put some oil on the splines, be careful not to get it on the pressure plate face, the clutch disk or the flywheel face.

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Re: Won't move

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:31 pm

put pto in gear and and have someone turn it while you look in clutch hand hole. If shaft in hole is turning you have a clutch problem. If not you probably have a broken shaft right in the front transmission bearing. It has rare, but have heard of it a couple times.
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Re: Won't move

Postby ArtN » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:14 pm

Solved problem today. It was the clutch sticking. I noticed that the clutch petal didn't come all the way even with the brake petal's. So I pushed it all the way down and then used a pipe wrench to reach down and pull it back up. Did this about 25 times and noticed that each time it came a little closer to the top out. After about 50 times it started moving to the top on its on. Started it up this morning and she moves again. Still don't think the clutch is making great contact. It's not slipping but may need adjusted a little. Thanks for all the suggestions. :worthy:

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Re: Won't move

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:22 am

One more suggestion, use some thin oil and oil the clutch shaft where it passes through the torque tube.
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Re: Won't move

Postby Bus Driver » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:57 am

"Clutch sticking" could be more than one thing. In the case of your tractor, the description suggests that the pedal and associated mechanism is the real culprit, that it was holding pressure against the clutch release bearing and thus the clutch plate was not pressed tightly against the flywheel. Rust at/in the shaft where the bottom of the pedal is supported and rotates is probably the area of the problem. Lots of penetrant and compressed air should flush it out.
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