Woods Mower --- More Questions

[David]

I continued assembly of my newly restored Woods mower today, and now I am stomped.

Here is an overall picture of status:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lindahvin ... pg&.src=ph

Now, isn't the mower deck supposed to attach to these brackets with all these holes on the idler bracket:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lindahvin ... pg&.src=ph

If YES, then why are these brackets on the idler bracket only approx 17" apart, whereas the mower arms are like 26" apart.

Should be clear on this photo:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lindahvin ... pg&.src=ph

Do I have the wrong idler bracket? (I bought for a 42C-4 mower, which is what I thought I have). Or do I not have a 42C-4 mower?

As always, please HELP, because I am lost!!!!

Thanks

David

[Mike in Louisiana]

David,
The arms on my mower are 17" outside to outside, and the brackets are 17" inside to inside. Your arms may be bent. They are supposed to fit inside. There is also a bushing that goes in the hole on the arms and also where it attaches to the rockshaft.

Mike

[David]

The arms are definitely not bent. Unless they were cut off, and then re-welded to fit something wider, which is a possibility, I guess (but tough, since you also have that piece of pipe in the middle for the forward support).

The arms on the photo that cubguy47 posted look like a narrower angle.

Were their any 42" Woods mowers that had arms much wider? I was told this mower deck came off a Cub, so somehow I am going to make it fit, even if I have to make some bracket to bridge the gap.

Interesting thing though, it seems like the arms are exactly the width of the drawbar bracket to bracket.

[Bigdog]

Your deck is for a fast hitch cub. It is a 42 CF deck. There are 2 L-shaped brackets that bolt to the final drives at the implement mounting holes. I have 1 deck just like yours and another deck that will fit your idler bracket mounts. It mounts like this:

http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/OEM%20Implement%20and%20Attachment%20Manuals/Woods%20Mower%20Manuals/42CF-6%20Rotary%20Mower/Page%2009.jpg

[David]

Big Dog - is there any earlier versions of the 42CF-6 deck. The drawing that you linked to shows the arms bolted to the deck, but my arms are definitely welded to the deck.

[Bigdog]

Mine are welded too. I don't know whether that was an earlier or later version. Most likely it was earlier. The L-shaped brackets are the same though. You should still be able to use your deck if you make a set of mounting brackets. I can photograph and measure mine tomorrow if you need data. I believe your idler bracket will still work with this set-up. You just won't be using the mower mounting holes on the bracket.

[David]

I am on the Woods website right now - did you know that they have all the manuals there in pdf?

Take a look at page 9 of this manual for a 42CL-5 (it says for a lo-boy). Looks real similar.

If you don't mind, could you take some photos of yours tomorrow - I am thinking I am going to have to make it fit, and better not re-inventing the wheel.

[David]

Scrub my last post.

Check this out: a 42CF-1 (manual number F-4176), which according to the 42CF-6 manual on Rudi's site, front cover, is the previous version of the 42CF-6. This one looks like welded arms. And the rest looks the same with the L shaped brackets. Also says in the manual that you don't have to use a fast hitch.

Here is the link:

http://www.woodsequipment.com/manuals/m ... F-4176.pdf

[Bigdog]

I'm sorry if I left the impression you needed a fast hitch. You definitely don't need a fast hitch. I don't have a cub with a fast hitch and I've used this mower on mine.

[Rudi]

BD:

Which mowers that Woods made were mountable on either a Cub or a Lo-boy... there is a lot of pdfs over there, and I may as well snag em now as later...

I really would like to know the complete list, but not sure how to search the woods site for that info...

Any ideas??

[Bigdog]

Rudi, any mower with an L in the part number is for a lo-boy. C indicates Cub, F indicates for tractors with fast hitch.

[David]

Rudi - I clicked on them one by one, and generally, on the front cover it says what it was for. eg. the AC ones are for an Allis. But you do have to click one by one, and then look at the front cover, or like page one or 2.

Big Dog - when you don't have the fast hitch, do those L brackets attach to what - the three drawbar bolts? Looks like they have a three bolt pattern at the top on the horizontal portion of the L.

Look forward to seeing your photos tomorrow.

On page 4 of the manual, it says: "The 42CF-1 is for mounting under the IHC Cub Tractor. It is designed so that all of the Fast Hitch can be left on the tractor. (It can also be mounted on Cub Tractors not equipped with fast hitch if desired".

[Bigdog]

Big Dog - when you don't have the fast hitch, do those L brackets attach to what - the three drawbar bolts? Looks like they have a three bolt pattern at the top on the horizontal portion of the L.

Yes, it bolts to the drawbar mounting bolts.

[Bigdog]

A couple of pictures:



The brackets on the left are home-made and will mount to either the front or rear implement mounting bosses on the final drives putting the vertical arm of the bracket centered up front to rear on the final drive. The home-made bracket on the left (the complete L with the big hole in it mounts on the right final drive. The axle stub will be inside the large hole. The bracket with the diagonal (sort of) cut mounts on the left final drive and the diagonal cut will clear the axle cap on the left axle.

The other set of brackets is factory made and I am not sure but they may be for a lo-boy.

Some additional pictures can be found here:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v610/dbigdog/Brackets/?sc=1&multi=7

[David]

BigDog - Thanks for posting the pictures. Now it is very clear, especially with the measurements.

Do you or does anybody out their have a template for the exact locations of the three implement mounting bolt holes? If not, no problem, I will make one. Just wondering if there is a standard template.

Thanks

David