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Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Jackman » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Picked this up last week at an estate clean out, it was free for the taking 8) , I know its a sickle bar blade sharping tool but is it Cub related, any info appreciated :thanx:

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Boss Hog » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:13 pm

sickle bar grinder
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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Jackman » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:34 pm

Thanks is it Cub mounted or bench mounted?

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:06 pm

Having "Deering" cast on it, I suspect it would been much earlier than a Cub. It should work on a Cub 22 though. Most of the early ones were made to mount on the steel wheel of the horse drawn mower. Look at the bottom and see if it looks like it's made for that. I can't tell from the pictures.

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Glen » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Hi,
I agree with what Bob said. If it is from before World War 2, it's from before when Cubs were manufactured. :)
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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Rudi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:08 pm

The one I have say's McCormick on it ... most I have seen are definitely pre-Cub era and are bench or steel wheel mounted for sharpening in the field if need be.

this one is mine .. not a great pic though ..

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Yours is even older design. Neat sharpener :D
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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Scrivet » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:50 pm

Just the name Deering alone doesn't automatically make it older than IH's formation in 1902. IH kept separate divisions for many years. Look for the circle IHC logo cast into the parts. Without that then it most likely is prior to 1902. Or sometime shortly thereafter. I'm sure they had a few sitting on the shelf and would have sold those as well as it may have taken a couple months (or years) to add the logo to all the patterns.

From what I have researched, hand crank sickle sharpeners first were used around the 1860's and really took off in the 1880's. They were made up into the 1950's. Sickle sharpeners are collected and IH fans will try to acquire all twelve of the IH related companies that made them. I always see the number twelve but nowhere can I find a list them. So here are eleven of the ones I think are that list.

McCormick
McCormick-Deering
International
Champion
Deering
Plano
Milwaukee
Osborne
Emerson-Brantingham
Webster
Badger

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby leerenovations » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:57 pm

Wasnt the first cubs called a McCormick Deering Cub??
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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Jackman » Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:39 pm

Scrivet wrote:Just the name Deering alone doesn't automatically make it older than IH's formation in 1902. IH kept separate divisions for many years. Look for the circle IHC logo cast into the parts. Without that then it most likely is prior to 1902. Or sometime shortly thereafter. I'm sure they had a few sitting on the shelf and would have sold those as well as it may have taken a couple months (or years) to add the logo to all the patterns.

From what I have researched, hand crank sickle sharpeners first were used around the 1860's and really took off in the 1880's. They were made up into the 1950's. Sickle sharpeners are collected and IH fans will try to acquire all twelve of the IH related companies that made them. I always see the number twelve but nowhere can I find a list them. So here are eleven of the ones I think are that list.

McCormick
McCormick-Deering
International
Champion
Deering
Plano
Milwaukee
Osborne
Emerson-Brantingham
Webster
Badger



Does the blue paint give a indication of the age?

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:52 pm

See if there is a patent # and date anywhere on it. The patent date would give you a "made after that date".

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby Scrivet » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:03 pm

Jackman wrote:Does the blue paint give a indication of the age?
Not that I know of. More than likely that was Deering's signature color. The three most common sickle grinders I know of are the McCormick, the McCormick-Deering, and the International. They are all the same design (different than yours). The McCormick-Deering is always red, the International is always gray,
and the McCormick always starts a fight! :D
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This one came from my cousin's auction and it is old enough to have been used by my great grandfather (or my cousin could have bought it at an auction, don't really know). It doesn't have the IH circle logo on the castings (except for the couple I had to replace) so that dates it to around 1900-1910 or so. John *.?-!.* cub owner bought it at the auction and gave it to me after he got tired of tripping over it and moving it around his shop for a year or so. I bought a parts McCormick-Deering real cheap to get the parts that were missing and cleaned it up and gave it the correct colored coat of paint for a McCormick sickle grinder.
This is John *.?-!.* cub owner's original thread on it. http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=74186

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Re: Is this a cub related part? (pic)

Postby leerenovations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:58 pm

Rudi wrote:The one I have say's McCormick on it ... most I have seen are definitely pre-Cub era and are bench or steel wheel mounted for sharpening in the field if need be.

this one is mine .. not a great pic though ..

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Yours is even older design. Neat sharpener :D



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