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Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby bythepond88 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:30 pm

Well, along with the broke tie rod, my right front tire sprang a leak. Tried the jack under a solid objec trick, but the object wasn't solid enough. Then I noticed the parallel carpenter'd clamp hanging from the rafters. Yep, screwed in the inner rod, screwed out the outer rod to pinch the jaws, then used a BFS (screwdriver) to pry the bead loose. Hope this helps someone down the road.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Barnyard » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:42 pm

I have found a BFV (vise) to be handy also.

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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:45 pm

I've used a hydraulic wood splitter, more than once. Stick a piece of wood, across the wedge, and stand the tire between the block, and pusher. Ed
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Jack » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:55 pm

I used the vise myself , it worked out great
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby danovercash » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:38 pm

If you have multiple cubs, lay the rim on a solid surface, drive other cub front tire over flat tire till bead breaks.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:45 pm

I have one of these mini-changers, along with a set of 15 inch spoons that work well.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby OP Cubber » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:43 am

Ditto to what John said. I was using my mini-changer yesterday, and it makes breaking the beads a simple task. Now all I have to do is clean & paint the rims, and put the new front tires on the rims without pinching the tubes.

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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby spaceghost » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 am

I have been waiting for a post like this to share a method that I learnt about 40 years ago but the method will make some nerves. When I was seven we moved next door to a family run truck tire business that I spent most of my free time and helping and working around the shop when I was about 10 years old to in my early twenties. The father (who became a farther to me) had been working in the truck tire business for many years and had worked for some big tire company’s when he was a young man. This guy knew tires inside and out.
This magic method had been used by and the company’s that he worked for many years and I have used it myself for many years without incident. The method to break tire beads without broken your back is gasoline. This guy had bleach bottles that he would fill up and carry with him. He would pour a little bit of gasoline in the bead between the tire and the rim and let it sit for 10 or 15 minutes or so and stand on the tire and hit the bead with a big FTH (TH = tire hammer) and the tire would fall off with little effort. I have never had a dangerous experience (nor the tire company that I worked for) but that does not mean it is safe. I wonder if there is not a liquid that would do that same job without being flammable.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:40 am

Bob, a guy could get a big BANG,out of it! Ed
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:06 am

Spaceghost, I have seen the same thing done, but after it set 4 or 5 minutes they would light the gasoline and let it burn off before removing the tire. they only used a very small trickle of gasoline around the bead, and the flame was small enough it was easily put out with a rag if needed.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Hengy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:56 am

I have made several attempts to remove a rear tire from a really rusted rim and have put a plank on the tire and driven a truck up on the plank. Same tire, I have tried to get prybars in between what was left of the bead edge on the rim, and the tire is still mounted to the damaged rim.

Any suggestions to remove the rear tire bead? I had thought of using my angle grinder with a metal cutting wheel to cut the rim in half, but if there is something easier for this beast, I would really love to hear!! The tire is in great shape, but is useless to me without being able to get it off the rim!
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Eugene » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:40 pm

Hengy wrote:I have made several attempts to remove a rear tire from a really rusted rim. Any suggestions to remove the rear tire bead?
Two, three or more, flat pry bars, spray bottle of soapy water and hefty hammer. Drive one flat pry bar between rim and tire until pry bar hits the bead bottom. 2nd flat pry bar, move over so you have an inch or two gap between the two bars - same thing. Spray soapy water in gap between flat pry bars. Try twisting the pry bars side ways.

Continue working your way around the rim. Go around again opening up the gap between bead and rim.

If the rim is rusted to the bead, your not gonna need the daily gym work out. You will eventually get the tire off the rim.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Mr E » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:46 pm

Mike,
I have found this is another good use for Kroil (or your favorite brand). Spray generously around the tire before you start, and then as the space opens up from the pry bars.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Barnyard » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:49 pm

Hengy wrote:Any suggestions to remove the rear tire bead?

Bring it to the Tug and I'll put my bead breaker on it.
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Re: Breaking the bead on front tier

Postby Hengy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:05 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Hengy wrote:Any suggestions to remove the rear tire bead?

Bring it to the Tug and I'll put my bead breaker on it.


Thanks for that offer, Bill. Unfortunately with the move and all the new projects around the new house, the Tug isn't in the cards for me!

Thanks everyone for your suggestions...I'll get after it sometime soon!!
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