184 Planter Questions

Farmall Cub Forum -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Brandon Webb
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2209
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm
Zip Code: 40741
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub #1024
1950 Non-Electric Cub "Plain Jane"
1957 Farmall Cub High Crop
1975 International Cub

Cub 174 Planter with Row Markers
No. 27 Corn and Pea Attachment
Location: London, Kentucky

184 Planter Questions

Postby Brandon Webb » Sat May 11, 2013 11:28 pm

New to the 184 Planters never saw one until today. Do they have some type of stand to hold them up when not attached to a tractor? Are they supposed to just sit on the wheel? What keeps them from falling over when you try to back into them and attach them? Also inside the hopper on this one I found the little rods pictured what purpose do they play? They don't look like they have ever been used.
Image
Image

User avatar
Rudi
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 28707
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:37 pm
Zip Code: E1A7J3
eBay ID: ve9rhs
Skype Name: R.H. "Rudi" Saueracker, SSM
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub "Granny"
1948 Cub "Ellie-Mae"
1968 Cub Lo-Boy
Dad's Putt-Putt
IH 129 CC
McCormick 100 Manure Spreader
McCormick 100-H Manure Spreader
Post Hole Digger
M-H #1 Potato Digger
Circle of Safety: Y
Twitter ID: Rudi Saueracker, SSM
Location: NB Dieppe, Canada

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Rudi » Sat May 11, 2013 11:49 pm

Brandon:

I have no clue as I have never seen one before, but I do have the manual on the server - International 184 planter Unit 7-12-65

Image

Not sure if that helps ... not sure what the wing and disc is for. Maybe Jim knows.
Confusion breeds Discussion which breeds Knowledge which breeds Confidence which breeds Friendship


User avatar
twotone
5+ Years
5+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 1116
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 6:09 pm
Zip Code: 15132
Tractors Owned: 53 F Cub
73 F Cub
53 Super A With Snow/Grader Blade
193 Plow With Colter And Jointer
144 Cultivators
22 Mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Versailles,Pa.

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby twotone » Sun May 12, 2013 1:38 am

Wouldn't the wing and disc be a row marker?
Know Your Cub, And Your Cub Will Know You.

Tom

User avatar
bob in CT
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 5974
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:34 am
Zip Code: 06040
Tractors Owned: 77 Cub (red); 74 Cub; 52 Cub; 50 Cub ( post-demo)
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Manchester

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby bob in CT » Sun May 12, 2013 5:53 am

twotone wrote:Wouldn't the wing and disc be a row marker?

Yes

User avatar
bob in CT
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 5974
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:34 am
Zip Code: 06040
Tractors Owned: 77 Cub (red); 74 Cub; 52 Cub; 50 Cub ( post-demo)
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Manchester

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby bob in CT » Sun May 12, 2013 6:16 am

I don't see the rods in the parts book, but I don't have the book showing the fertilizer attachment.

If it were mine, I would make a stand with some 2x4s laying flay to chock the press wheel and a couple of 4x4s to support the sword to keep it upright.

User avatar
Boss Hog
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 10192
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:35 pm
Zip Code: 23962
eBay ID: dmb2613
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: VA. Randolph

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Boss Hog » Sun May 12, 2013 7:10 am

I have never seen a fert hopper on a one row planter. Only on 2 and 4 row ones.
IN GOD WE TRUST
All others pay cash
Boss Hog
Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely byJohn Emerich Edward Dalberg

User avatar
bob in CT
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 5974
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:34 am
Zip Code: 06040
Tractors Owned: 77 Cub (red); 74 Cub; 52 Cub; 50 Cub ( post-demo)
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Manchester

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby bob in CT » Sun May 12, 2013 7:16 am

Boss Hog wrote:I have never seen a fert hopper on a one row planter. Only on 2 and 4 row ones.

Do you have a FU-1 parts book at work?

User avatar
Boss Hog
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 10192
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:35 pm
Zip Code: 23962
eBay ID: dmb2613
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: VA. Randolph

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Boss Hog » Sun May 12, 2013 8:20 am

I will look
IN GOD WE TRUST
All others pay cash
Boss Hog
Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely byJohn Emerich Edward Dalberg

User avatar
Brandon Webb
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2209
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm
Zip Code: 40741
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub #1024
1950 Non-Electric Cub "Plain Jane"
1957 Farmall Cub High Crop
1975 International Cub

Cub 174 Planter with Row Markers
No. 27 Corn and Pea Attachment
Location: London, Kentucky

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Brandon Webb » Sun May 12, 2013 9:23 am

So how and where do those rods mount if they are row markers?

baldwindiesel
Cub Star
Cub Star
Posts: 193
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:21 pm
Zip Code: 44820

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby baldwindiesel » Sun May 12, 2013 10:31 am

Brandon:
WOW ! What a find !!! I have a Fast Hitch 184 Planter too; in fact, I used it this week to plant corn and beans. Mine doesn't have the fertilizer hopper though. My 184 wants to tip over too, I just rest it against the wall and find it easier just to attach it by hand.
Just a guess, but those rods might be a stand, I have a 174 Planter with row markers and those rods are too short, and no way resemble those used on the 174 planter. What are the length of the rods you have ?
Keep looking, there might be a FH Harrow out there or a toolbar with depth wheels.

Baldwindiesel

User avatar
Brandon Webb
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2209
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm
Zip Code: 40741
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub #1024
1950 Non-Electric Cub "Plain Jane"
1957 Farmall Cub High Crop
1975 International Cub

Cub 174 Planter with Row Markers
No. 27 Corn and Pea Attachment
Location: London, Kentucky

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Brandon Webb » Sun May 12, 2013 12:41 pm

I'll have to measure them but that's the combo hopper lid laying beside them for reference to size. This piece pictured was on the pallet with the planter could it be a stand of some sort? Don't know if it's for a cub anybody seen anything like it?
Image

baldwindiesel
Cub Star
Cub Star
Posts: 193
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:21 pm
Zip Code: 44820

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby baldwindiesel » Sun May 12, 2013 8:23 pm

Brandon:
I checked my IH parts catalog from the late 1950's and looked at both the 182 planter and the 184. Neither one showed the fertilizer hopper mounted in that arrangement, nor did it show those rods. ????

Baldwindiesel

baldwindiesel
Cub Star
Cub Star
Posts: 193
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:21 pm
Zip Code: 44820

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby baldwindiesel » Fri May 17, 2013 9:27 pm

Did Boss Hog ever have a chance to look up the FH 184 planter at work ? I sure would like to know more about the two hopper arrangement and that possible stand.

Baldwindiesel

User avatar
bob in CT
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 5974
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:34 am
Zip Code: 06040
Tractors Owned: 77 Cub (red); 74 Cub; 52 Cub; 50 Cub ( post-demo)
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CT, Manchester

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby bob in CT » Sat May 18, 2013 3:16 am

Claude did not see anything in fertilizer book FU-1. He pointed out that it would be really hard to drive that hopper with the ground wheel only especially if the fertilizer was damp.

User avatar
Brandon Webb
10+ Years
10+ Years
501 Club
501 Club
Posts: 2209
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:32 pm
Zip Code: 40741
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub #1024
1950 Non-Electric Cub "Plain Jane"
1957 Farmall Cub High Crop
1975 International Cub

Cub 174 Planter with Row Markers
No. 27 Corn and Pea Attachment
Location: London, Kentucky

Re: 184 Planter Questions

Postby Brandon Webb » Sat May 18, 2013 8:31 pm

Paint appears original and it doesn't appear that it was added at a later date. It still has the decals down by the wheel. I can get some better pics but it all matches. I know nothing about these planters.

How did the larger 4 row planters drive the hoppers?

All the gearing looks factory and the hopper runs off the planter countershaft. Did all 184's have a long shaft with drive gear on both sides?


Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests