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- Stanton
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New T/C Filter UPDATED
Was having trouble in my 1949's T/C unit, so thought an overhaul was in order. Opened up the unit and found some bad o-rings, but also an old, brittle, cracked fluid filter. After looking how it went together, I got the propane torch out and released the two steel rings at each end.
Then I cleaned up the rings and cut a piece of bronze wire mesh (same stuff I've used to make gasoline filters in my sediment bowls).
There's about a 1/4" to 3/8" overlap in the mesh. The steel rings were reapplied, holding the ends of the mesh, but I needed a wire loosely wrapped around the center portion to keep in in place while soldering.
I used a propane torch at first with acid flux core solder:
But then switched to a Weller soldering gun with a flat soldering tip. The propane torch was too hot making the solder blotchy. The Weller flat tip was a big help smoothing it out.
Then installed.
The filter was about 1/32" too long, so it bent up the mesh a little to get it in, but think it an improvement over the previous one.
EDIT ADDED: Wire reinforcing mesh.
Added some galvanized hardware cloth (1/4" squares). Wire wheeled it down to just slightly shorter than the filter's overall length (6-7/16").
Then, wrapped it, rolled it and soldered it in place.
Finished result.
Can you tell which part has been repaired?
Fired it up and it works just fine (forgot to paint my hydraulic lines and pump,oops).
Then I cleaned up the rings and cut a piece of bronze wire mesh (same stuff I've used to make gasoline filters in my sediment bowls).
There's about a 1/4" to 3/8" overlap in the mesh. The steel rings were reapplied, holding the ends of the mesh, but I needed a wire loosely wrapped around the center portion to keep in in place while soldering.
I used a propane torch at first with acid flux core solder:
But then switched to a Weller soldering gun with a flat soldering tip. The propane torch was too hot making the solder blotchy. The Weller flat tip was a big help smoothing it out.
Then installed.
The filter was about 1/32" too long, so it bent up the mesh a little to get it in, but think it an improvement over the previous one.
EDIT ADDED: Wire reinforcing mesh.
Added some galvanized hardware cloth (1/4" squares). Wire wheeled it down to just slightly shorter than the filter's overall length (6-7/16").
Then, wrapped it, rolled it and soldered it in place.
Finished result.
Can you tell which part has been repaired?
Fired it up and it works just fine (forgot to paint my hydraulic lines and pump,oops).
Last edited by Stanton on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:42 am, edited 2 times in total.
- Dale Finch
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Re: New T/C Filter
WOW! Great job. Considering the cost of those guys, was it financially advantageous to do this? I know there is always the "satisfaction" factor, but maybe you have found a new side job!?
Congrats!
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Re: New T/C Filter
Dale Finch wrote:WOW! Great job. Considering the cost of those guys, was it financially advantageous to do this? I know there is always the "satisfaction" factor, but maybe you have found a new side job!?
Congrats!
Yeah, some of it was financial. With a new one being over $60, thought it was something I didn't have anything to loose by trying. Haven't got the T/C unit back installed to try it out yet--HA!!--may not work at all!!!
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Re: New T/C Filter
Dave
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Re: New T/C Filter
Looks great!
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Re: New T/C Filter
Looks good. This one needs to be put in the "How To" section.
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Re: New T/C Filter
Since you do not have it installed yet, the same modification thye made on the new ones could be considered. They have some reinforcement on the inside to prevent collapsing as they get older. Just a series of rods or a coil inside as I remember, it has been a while since I changed one.
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Re: New T/C Filter
Billy Fussell wrote:Looks good. This one needs to be put in the "How To" section.
Billy
I plan to do that, but will wait until all the comments are in and see how it works. I like the idea of it.
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Re: New T/C Filter
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:Since you do not have it installed yet, the same modification thye made on the new ones could be considered. They have some reinforcement on the inside to prevent collapsing as they get older. Just a series of rods or a coil inside as I remember, it has been a while since I changed one.
I've got a new one on the shelf, so I took a look. The reinforcement material is what we called "hardware cloth" when I was growing up. Basically wire woven in ~1/8" squares. The screen material appears to be stainless. None the less, I'm ready to try Stanton's approach on my next TC refurb.
Bill
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Re: New T/C Filter
my original screen just had a couple small holes in it.
I cleaned it up, and did a solder repair to the small holes, much like you did to the seam joining on your new screen. posted pics
I was grilled on this forum about the fact the solder wouldweaken the screen and bits would break off
maybe time changes minds.....
I cleaned it up, and did a solder repair to the small holes, much like you did to the seam joining on your new screen. posted pics
I was grilled on this forum about the fact the solder wouldweaken the screen and bits would break off
maybe time changes minds.....
- AL Farmall Boy
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Re: New T/C Filter
very nice repair. I'm sure it will work great, and the reinforcement idea might be a good thing to add. Where do you find the wire mesh you used. I'd like to have a roll of it for the sediment bowl filters.....and possibly to make one of these!
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Re: New T/C Filter
I probably missed it but where did you get the brass mesh?
Wish I'd seen this a few months ago before I paid the long buck at the CaseIH dealer for a new strainer.
Wish I'd seen this a few months ago before I paid the long buck at the CaseIH dealer for a new strainer.
- AL Farmall Boy
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Re: New T/C Filter
Would this be the material you're using? Boy......it's not necessarily cheap is it? Is Bronze mandatory or would another material be ok? Of course we wouldn't want anything that would rust.
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- Stanton
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Re: New T/C Filter
ToddW wrote:my original screen just had a couple small holes in it.
I cleaned it up, and did a solder repair to the small holes, much like you did to the seam joining on your new screen. posted pics
I was grilled on this forum about the fact the solder wouldweaken the screen and bits would break off
maybe time changes minds.....
Can't speak to that conversation, but anytime we post something here, it's up for critique; good or bad. That's the chance you take. Hope your repair is doing well and will last a long time.
AL Farmall Boy wrote:very nice repair. I'm sure it will work great, and the reinforcement idea might be a good thing to add. Where do you find the wire mesh you used. I'd like to have a roll of it for the sediment bowl filters.....and possibly to make one of these!
AL Farmall Boy wrote:Would this be the material you're using? Boy......it's not necessarily cheap is it? Is Bronze mandatory or would another material be ok? Of course we wouldn't want anything that would rust.
Found it online somewhere--can't remember and the package is at home (I'm at work). A lady was using a roll of it at Silver Dollar City some time back. I got the info from her and it didn't seem to be too expensive. If I remember, I'll get the info and post it.
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