Starter Question

[Kodiak]

I was going to replace the starter until the parts guy told me how much it would be $180 plus core. After I got back up on the stool I told him no thanks and went home and proceeded to take mine apart. My question is does anyone have any idea what kind of insulating material the field windings were wrapped in? Any ideas on a replacement? As you can tell from the picture I need to re-wrap the field windings.



Thanks

[Bigdog]

If you can find it, friction tape would work well.

[Kodiak]

BD are you refering to the old fashion black tape made out of cloth? Black electrical tape?

[Carm]

that would probably work, pretty durable stuff. the cloth stuff. should be plenty sticky not to come off

[Bigdog]

That's the stuff!

[John *.?-!.* cub owner]

you sometimes have to look, but the older hardware and many farm supply stores in my area still carry it.

[Mac from NS]

isn't that the same as the tape they use on hockey sticks

[Bigdog]

I know I have a roll somewhere in the shop. But I can never find it when I want it. And it always turns up when I am looking for something else.

[John *.?-!.* cub owner]

Similia to the tape on hockey sticks, but not quite the same.

[Brent]

Kodiak,

Might be a little late by the looks of the picture but I just had mine rebuilt at a local auto electric shop. $45.00. They even painted it.

[Charles (49) Mo]

I have over many years (some time ago) used a lot of friction tape.
It was a good tape then that provides a lot of abrasion resistance. Your coil windings are actually insulated from each other with a varnish type compound. This is still used on transformers today. The drawback with friction tape is that after a period of time, it dries out and becomes brittle. Plastic electrical tape wouldn't take the heat generated in a starter. Scotch makes a glass tape that is heat setting (Scotch 68, I think.) Whatever you use, don't make it any thicker or you might have dimension problems.

[John *.?-!.* cub owner]

Just did a little checcking, and the True Value stores in our area carry friction tape.

[Arizona Mike]

All us Old Bell Heads have used "B" Friction Tape by the mile. I am still able to get it at Sutherland Lumber here in town, and keep a couple rolls around. Good stuff ...but not as good as the old bell system friction tape.

Now..if a guy could find some of that "B" Sealing Tape..that would be . I am always seeing places I could use that stuff, if I could find it today

[Kodiak]

Thanks guys for all the input, I found a roll of friction tape in the shop that my Grandpa had (He passed away 11 years ago) He was an electrician, I hope its still good. Thanks to Charles for reminding me about the thickness that's very important. I know I can get a new roll at the electrical supply house in town.

Thanks again
Kodiak

[beaconlight]

We used friction tape over rubber tape on the old Bell power cables. To protect it from drying out we used to put a coat or two of yellow shellac over it. I have opened up and worked on ones over 60 years old and they were as good and fresh as the day they were installed. How we told a fresh roll of friction was to pull some back quickly and if fresh you got a bluish spark.

Bill