E-bay seller still at it!

beaconlight · Postby **beaconlight** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:59 am

I like the new this image stolen from etc.

Bill

Postby **'Country' Elliott** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:36 am

Hey Boys...I'm sorry I missed seeing my Carol Elizabeth Cub photo being used by this LOW-LIFE, TRACTOR-PHOTO-STEALIN', EBAY SELLIN' SLEEZE BALL :evil:

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Glad y'all came to her rescue and defended her honor (and Mine too!)

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Ebay's filled with ENOUGH JERKS...We sure don'e need one who's rippin' off the Farmall Cub. Com photos

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THANKS to Dennis, Big Dof & all who helped in this effort

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VIGILANCE ALWAYS PAYS OFF :wink:

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Postby **Cub-Bud** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:06 am

Isn't there a way to keep images from being copied :?:

Postby **Arizona Mike** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:08 am

Don't know how you did that Dennis, but the message is

Don't think he will link here again

Mike

Ron L · Postby **Ron L** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:18 am

Jim Hudson wrote:Someone should buy his disk. I bet he got it from Rudi's site. Which by the way is down tonight.

ABSOLUTELY! Then ruin his 100% feedback rating ... :evil:

..... WITH some choice, informative wording .... :shock:

Matt Kirsch · Postby **Matt Kirsch** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:13 pm

Hey, at least he's not trying to sell the tractor!

That's how I came to own my '67. The owner put it up on Ebay, but it was so ugly that people weren't biting. I let it go thinking that I could go in person and get a better deal. Then it showed up on Ebay again, different pictures, different seller, starting bid $100 more than last time.

When I asked the second seller if he was selling it for the first guy, he replied, "Whos XXX YYYY?"

I went back to the first guy. He still owned the Cub, and didn't give anybody permission to sell it on Ebay for him. The guy was trying to sell it out from under the real owner!!! I'd already blown my cover, so the owner pretended to be interested, and met the scumbag at the tractor, with the cops!

Postby **Buzzard Wing** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:47 pm

I know how to fix him good..... sick Case IH on him for selling copywritten material. That is a far worse violation than using that link.

Guy must be pretty stupid.... he could have copied it to somewhere else and used it with far less likelyhood of being caught.

Donny M · Postby **Donny M** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:16 pm

Just looked at that on e-beg this is what I found:

Pretty cool Dennis :!:

Postby **Rudi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:07 pm

Guys:

I noticed this last week and sent the yo-yo a question as to why he was doing this. No answer - figures... I was going to sent Country a heads up and make a post here, but the hospital sort of got in the way.....

I have already sent emails to a number of sellers. In fact I have even bought a couple of cd's to check em out and see where the manuals are coming from.

Unfortunately I cannot afford to buy a copy of each one... some of them are pretty expensive - especially in Cdn funds. So far just about every one that I have seen have been rip offs from the manual server.

One of the responses I got to my questions was" PO and get a life"... oh okay.

I just am trying to make sure I can keep my promise that these manuals would not be used for sale. As soon as I can get the server to the point I want it, then I will be able to burn the manuals to cd. Then, whoever in our community who wants one will be able to get one for their own personal use.

I have to figure out a way to somehow stop this, but I think it will be a losing battle. I even discussed it with eBay - and this is encouraging. If I can prove that someone has swiped the manuals from the server (such as identifying marks) then eBay will caution the user and if not repaired will cancel their account. I hate to do it, but there is a heck of a lot of work involved in that server and I really do not like the idea of some scam artist profiting from my work and from everybody's gernosity.

Oh, yeah. There ARE markers in ALL of the manuals that I can identify and I then know if the manuals have been hijacked. It is just a matter of having the time.

However, if any of you actually have a copy of these cd's that have been around for the last 2 years, I would appreciate a copy. It may help a little as they seem to be pdf files now. Would save me a lot of work :!:

Let me know what you think!

I am no legal beagle, but I have done a fair amount of research into this for the server itself. Binder knows about the server, and I think so does Case IH. No one, and let me re-emphasise this - NO ONE who represents these interests has made a big deal out of it. Mostly because these are older versions and they are not for sale!

As for the copyright violation, there really is a lot of doubt there. There are many people offering repints (aside from the licensed distributor Binder Books). Also, there is NO copyright indication on any IH material that I have been able to find. Copyright laws, although similar internationally, mean many different things. As for here in Canada, the copyright symbol must be present as well as the date for the copyright to be legal.... and there are different rules in other countries.

And as far as that goes - well China has pretty well tossed the idea of copyright in the toilet. They don't care and will hijack anything they deem useful...... sooo where to go from here??

As for the server being down.. well it was due to the serve ISP making some DNS changes. The total time down was 28 hours. Sorry about that, but it has been a very long time since it has gone down, so we have been lucky. I have my guru to thank for that, he does and excellent job keeping the server up and on line.

Postby **Buzzard Wing** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:58 pm

WELCOME BACK RUDI.....
glad you didn't go to the light!

You made me look at the manuals, you are right about the copywrite. I guess they would have a hard time enforcing it anyway.

It is even worse that this guy stole them off your server, he must need to carry his round ones in a wheelbarrow.

I know that my 'investment' in the 'factory' manuals is well worth it, just for the effort I put in running down the wiring. Until I had them or knew about Rudi's server I was too often guessing and it was frustrating at times.

Let me know what I can do to help out... and thanks again Rudi for all your work on that server..... it has come in handy on many occasions.

Postby **Rudi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:37 pm

Guys:

This is the one CD that I am really interested in :!:

Farmall Cub Tractor Manuals.

Seems kinda unusual that most of those manuals seem to be identical to what is on the server.

This is the guy who seems to think "I need a life".

Oh well.

Larry:

I am also glad that I didn't go into the light as you say. I really want to thank you all for your prayers and wishes. I felt them all!

Will post a little something later on.

Postby **Cub-Bud** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:46 pm

Rudi...So glad to see you posting again...your presence is truly missed :!:

The guy you mention above is the same dipstick that was using Jim Hudson's pic on TM's site.

Postby **Rudi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:49 pm

Larry:

Yup, he is the other one who hijacked pics. I thought that was Jim's Cub that he was using. If you check the link, he has changed the pic though. Some guys have no honour :roll:

That is a worrying trend that seems to be taking hold of late.

Thanks for the kind words, I am truly glad to be back.

Postby **johnbron** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:55 pm

You guys just need to follow that thiefs auctions and if you see a stolen picture from here or Rudi`s manuals page change it or have Dennis change it to his neat "High-Jacked" swap he made on the last one. It would be good to catch it as a new listing instad of its final days. :twisted:

David D. smith · Postby **David D. smith** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:58 pm

Rudi, I sent you a email.

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