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- Rudi
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Well, have decided that I am going to have to break down and buy some taps and dies. I have got a whole bunch of threads to chase and best to bite the bullet I guess.
Question is what is the best choice. I could go and buy individuals I guess, but that will probably be very expensive. So, I was thinking about a tap and die set.
My favourite store doesn't have what I think I need, so am going to have to go shopping.
Can you all let me know what should be in the set. What can I expect to pay for the set. I do not need a pro set either I wouldn't think.
I need the tap for the front rims - haven't a clue what thread or pitch it is - not shown in the parts manual that I can see.
I see that I will need 5/16 x 18, 3/8 x 16, that is just for the deck. What about the threads to mount the battery box to the axle? The lights? Draw bar bolts? The bolt holes on the mounting pads, the head bolts and all those others etc.....
Remember, I haven't got a clue about this stuff, still learning, so your advice will be invaluable.
Monday I need to go and get the taps for the mounting pads and the draw bar mounting holes on the finals so I can get Jethro split....
Question is what is the best choice. I could go and buy individuals I guess, but that will probably be very expensive. So, I was thinking about a tap and die set.
My favourite store doesn't have what I think I need, so am going to have to go shopping.
Can you all let me know what should be in the set. What can I expect to pay for the set. I do not need a pro set either I wouldn't think.
I need the tap for the front rims - haven't a clue what thread or pitch it is - not shown in the parts manual that I can see.
I see that I will need 5/16 x 18, 3/8 x 16, that is just for the deck. What about the threads to mount the battery box to the axle? The lights? Draw bar bolts? The bolt holes on the mounting pads, the head bolts and all those others etc.....
Remember, I haven't got a clue about this stuff, still learning, so your advice will be invaluable.
Monday I need to go and get the taps for the mounting pads and the draw bar mounting holes on the finals so I can get Jethro split....
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- Jim Hudson
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I got a set from Harbor Freight. Total crap. They couldn't even clean threads much less cut them. Usually the harbor freight stuff works but these sure didn't. I finally broke down and bought a set from Sears. They work great. I don't remember what they cost but it was plenty. I don't know at this moment what size they go up to--maybe 1/2 inch. I know they have a large size upgrade set but I haven't bought them yet. I borrow the larger sizes from my neighbor.
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Rudi,
I'll make it three. Sears will be your best bet for the money. But some of the taps you will need may not be in a resonably priced set. Looking in the Craftsman catalog the sets range in price from $89.99 for a 39 piece set to $279.99 for a 107 piece set. I would think you can get individual taps and dies you will need for Jethro for less money.
I'll make it three. Sears will be your best bet for the money. But some of the taps you will need may not be in a resonably priced set. Looking in the Craftsman catalog the sets range in price from $89.99 for a 39 piece set to $279.99 for a 107 piece set. I would think you can get individual taps and dies you will need for Jethro for less money.
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Rudi,
You'll probably get the best deal by buying an inexpensive set (maybe Sears) and later replacing just the ones you use the most. Most sets won't have the most important one... the 5/8x11. I'd buy that separately and buy a bottoming one too. This will allow you to clean the implement mounting threads all the way to the bottom, and maybe save a casting. If you really want to get carried away, get a 1" pipe tap just to clean the manifold threads.
The tap you'll wear out first will be the 3/8x16.
You'll probably get the best deal by buying an inexpensive set (maybe Sears) and later replacing just the ones you use the most. Most sets won't have the most important one... the 5/8x11. I'd buy that separately and buy a bottoming one too. This will allow you to clean the implement mounting threads all the way to the bottom, and maybe save a casting. If you really want to get carried away, get a 1" pipe tap just to clean the manifold threads.
The tap you'll wear out first will be the 3/8x16.
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A good tap set will cost you plenty. I think I would go along with the recomondations of buying from Sears. They will be middle of the road, probably a higher grade of chinese. But they should be ok as you will be using them for cleanup rather than actually tapping holes. I have to use the good ones as I never know if I will need to tap cast iron, stainless or aluminum. Avoid Horrible Fright on this one. Americian made taps are a good thing to look for at swap meets.
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Rudi I bought a set from Princes Auto the last time they had them on sale.They were only a small set. You just have to ue lots of cutting oil and take it slow when using them and try not to bottom out.I found the break pretty easy especially the small ones then you really have a problem.I bought two small ones seperate last week cost me $8.00 at the bolt storebut I needed them
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It sounds like I got a good deal on mine. I bought a batch of loose ones off of e-bay for $9.00 and it had 35 taps and 3 die nuts. It was about 50-50 NC and NF and ranged from #6 to 3/4". There were four 3/8" NC taps and that is what I use most. It also had a 1" pipe tap in the lot. With that batch and the set I already have, I hope I never have to buy any more.
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- Rudi
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What about Vermont American. A set of 11 is $64.00 and a set of 8 is $48.00. Both have about 50-50 NC and NF all SAE. Only problem is no 5/8"-11 never mind bottoming taps. But they do have the taps for the 10-24 and the other smaller ones that I will need. I will probably buy the more expensive set if VA is reasonable.
Is VA made in USA and is it of reasonable quality? Seems I will end up as George said, buying the 5/8-11 separately .
Thanks guys
Is VA made in USA and is it of reasonable quality? Seems I will end up as George said, buying the 5/8-11 separately .
Thanks guys
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I bought a new 5/8 - 11 tap from Sears about a month ago. As I recall, it was about $6 - $7.
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Rudi, A cheap set of taps is like a Murray mower...a waste of money.
Everyone in this forum insist that you should use OEM part when it is
possible and not to waste time and money on cheap imports. When you
break one of those cheap taps off in a hole you'll really wish that you had
bought better tools. You can often find good taps for cheap at a pawn shop. You will most likely find that you will only use 5 or 6 taps very often. Why buy a hole set if you don't need the full range of sizes. I was lucky to get two sets of Matco, 1 SAE, 1 Metric for $50 at a local pawn shop. Prior to that I bought quality individual taps as needed. As they wore I would grind them into bottoming taps. Hope this helps, Tom
Everyone in this forum insist that you should use OEM part when it is
possible and not to waste time and money on cheap imports. When you
break one of those cheap taps off in a hole you'll really wish that you had
bought better tools. You can often find good taps for cheap at a pawn shop. You will most likely find that you will only use 5 or 6 taps very often. Why buy a hole set if you don't need the full range of sizes. I was lucky to get two sets of Matco, 1 SAE, 1 Metric for $50 at a local pawn shop. Prior to that I bought quality individual taps as needed. As they wore I would grind them into bottoming taps. Hope this helps, Tom
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Dont buy a cheap one save if you have to .As far as sears go there hard to find these days with the merger or buyout or what ever there doing. In my opionion there not worth the price they want.Do a search I cant remember but it seems like JT supply or JT MACHINE But they sell machinist tools and have very good prices on very good stuff I bought a 9/16-24 tap and die for making a trip puller it was HSS parts that is the best and only cost me about 20.00 us I thought that was very reasonable for a special; order deal.
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