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Postby Uncle Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:09 pm

I just talked to Ralph as I need a rear rockshaft to operate my plough. He has one, but now I aparently need the DRAFT Control Lever. (Which Ralph does not posess) I'm not real woried about being authentic, just about turning the earth over. I was wondering if anyone had a work around for this.
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Postby Trent M » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:00 pm

Are you refering to the depth control lever for a Cub-193 plow? Try posting in the "For Sale/Wanted" area of the forum. Also, they regularly show up on :eBay: . Good luck and happy plowing!!
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:01 pm

I have heard of them being made form the depth levers on old pull type plows.
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Postby Virginia Mike » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:46 am

If you can find a hand lift rear unit you can use a rod from the touch control to control the plow angle. The helper spring and hand control will lift the plow.
The hand lift may be as hard to find as a plow lever.
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Postby Virginia Mike » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:34 am

Here is what I use.Image
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Postby Pony Master » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:54 am

That looks awesome, could you give me the dimensions of that lift rod so I can make one for myself.

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Postby Virginia Mike » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:40 pm

The rod is 33 inches from center to center of the holes. The drawbar bracket is cut from a piece of 3/8"X 2 1/2" angle iron.
The rod could be made from 1/2" pipe, or 1" square tubing. Mine is made from part of a milking parlor stantion.
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Postby Boss Hog » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:31 pm

Virginia Mike wrote:Here is what I use.Image
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Postby KETCHAM » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:15 pm

Nice Idea!!!I like that better than the hand lift!!!WOW!!!!Kevin :shock: :shock:
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Postby Rudi » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:25 pm

Mike:

I see I am not the only one that likes this idea :!: :wink: :D

How about a bunch of pics of how it all goes together and some measurements in a How To :idea: :?:
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Postby Trent M » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:41 pm

Mike- I like that idea, too. I've thought about getting a manual lift to raise rear cultivators, while using the TC for the front gangs (allows you to complete the row, instead of having the rears raise when the fronts hit the end). Your solution is another good reason to have the manual lift along with the TC. I also like having all controls on the left side.
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Postby George Willer » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:11 pm

Trent M wrote:Mike- I like that idea, too. I've thought about getting a manual lift to raise rear cultivators, while using the TC for the front gangs (allows you to complete the row, instead of having the rears raise when the fronts hit the end). Your solution is another good reason to have the manual lift along with the TC. I also like having all controls on the left side.


Trent,

You'll like the split system... especially if you plant short rows. It wouldn't make a lot of difference in a large field but it matters on a short row if you have to drop the cultivators late and raise early.
I've been doing the split system for several years. I like it. :lol:

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Now, the plow solution. I like it too. Another advantage is it should be easier to climb aboard without the depth lever in the way. It will be difficult to adjust the helper spring on the hand lift due to the varying load depending on the dirt on the share. With the TC you can drive to the end, stop, and lift the submerged plow.
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Very Nice..

Postby Uncle Mike » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:34 am

Mike,

Very good solution. I will look for a rear lift handle to come along. have a feeling that will come in handy quite often.

Does make me wonder if one of those by-pass blocks for the TC you see on E-Bay would not work also. If the pressure works independantly from the TC Rockshaft I could hook up another lift.

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Re: Very Nice..

Postby Rudi » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:39 am

Uncle Mike wrote:Mike,

Very good solution. I will look for a rear lift handle to come along. have a feeling that will come in handy quite often.

Does make me wonder if one of those by-pass blocks for the TC you see on E-Bay would not work also. If the pressure works independantly from the TC Rockshaft I could hook up another lift.


Mike:

That would be the case I do belive. I have a custom By-Pass Block and a Cessna Eaton CC valve to run the angle cylinder on my blade. So, I guess the By-Pass would be a good idea. There are a few versions around, check and see which would be best for you. I know I will be ordering another one eventually from the Master Class Shop :!:
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Postby Virginia Mike » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:13 pm

Gee, I thought I was the only one anal enought to worry about three feet of wheel track at the end of a row. :D

I was jealous of the split system on the "A" when I came up with this idea years ago. I first used the split system planting potatoes; I could run a lay-off plow on the rear, and disc hillers on the front to cover the sets.

Rudi: I don't know if there is enough to require a how-to. A piece of fairly stout metal with a 5/8" and a 1/2" hole 33 inches apart. A piece of 3/8" X 2 1/2" angle 1 1/2" long with a 5/8" and 1/2" hole in each side. Bolt together and plow. There are more pictures in my album.

An auxillary hydraulic cylinder would work too. Atached to one of the mounting pads on the torque tube. the lower end could attach anywhere on the drawbar. All you need is about 6" verticle movement.
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