Seed plates for 174 cub planter what size

[Boss Hog]

Hi I am not sure if this is the right forum, but I need to know the size plat I will need to go in a 174 planter I picked it up over the weekend and have no seed plates with it. i WILL BE PLANTING SILVER qUEEN CORN WITH IT.
Thanks David

[Super A]

What does the seed hopper look like? There could be several different ones for that planter, and that will determine the type of plate you need.

Al

[Boss Hog]

Hi It looks like This http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20 ... e%2038.jpg The one on the left
David

[Brandon Webb]

Yes, depends on the hopper, if it's a richmond hopper it will be like a 1977 or a 1978, or a 1979. Is your hopper galvinized or a small blue painted can that has a mccormick decal on it? Brandon.

[Boss Hog]

It is a small blue one no decal not much blue left either
David

[Brandon Webb]

That's the richmond hopper. I have a parts manual for it, and an owners manual. I'm at work right now, manuals are at home, just post your questions and I'll answer them as soon as I get home, or you can call me at 606-877-1351. I'll copy it for you and mail it to you. Brandon.

[Boss Hog]

Thanks Brandon
It will come in handy
David

[Larry in IN]

David,
If you can find a seed corn dealer that still has customers that are using plate-type planters, they should be able to fix you up with any of several plates to fit your seed. Seed of the same size designation will vary from year to year - check for drop accuracy each year/seed lot.
The original plates were cast, but starting in the 60's an outfit whose name escapes me took over the market with color-coded plastic plates. They have basically the same pattern as the original cast plates.
I have a chart somewhere that keys the old IH numbers to the plastic part # keys.
When/if I can find it, I'll send a copy to Rudi.
Good luck with it!
Larry

[Jim Becker]

The illustration you pointed at is for the "corn and pea" hopper. To slightly misquote Lou Costello, it is used for planting succotash. Since you didn't mention anything about a double hopper, it sounds like you do have the conventional Richmond Hopper.

You are probably going to want to use an edge drop plate for your corn seed. Which exact plate depends on the physical size of the seed. With the use of air drop planters these days, seed companies haven't been doing as good a job of sizing their seed, but hopefully you can find a plate that will work OK.

Here is a table of different plates that fit your hopper. Note that the ones Brandon called out are in this table and are likely to work for you. If none of them look right for your seed, look up or down the list for a better match. This is the third page of the table in that manual and illustrations are on a few pages before that. You may want to look at those pages as well.

[Boss Hog]

Yep Jim that is it. I went by Taylor Forbes, Mike the parts guy there is real good. I ordered a slide and a star scraper for the fertilizer part and he can get me the plates for the planter when I figue out which one I need around $8.00 each. I got two one complete and one for parts from the same guy.
David

[Brandon Webb]

I included copies of those pages in the stuff I mailed you, as well as a copy of a special manual titled "Planting with the Richmond Hopper", which I found on ebay last week. It's about 20 pages of info on just the richmond hopper and how to plant. It appears to be made in 1955 probably as a followup after these planters were dis-continued. Are the seed plates your talking about IH? Are they still available new? The corn plates are very common on ebay, there's 2 soybean plates listed now, one of which I'm going to bid on, just to have. http://search.stores.ebay.com/ACME-Trad ... 27QQsofpZ0

[Brandon Webb]

I'm new to this whole planter stuff, that column is seperated by number of cells? Is that the number of seeds or ? I noticed some of those plates like the 1972+ say alternating between 2 and 3. How do those work?

[Jim Becker]

The number of cells is the number of compartments for seeds to drop into in the plate. If everything else is equal, the more cells, the closer the seed will be planted.

Not clear what you are asking about 1972, maybe the hill drop plates? Hill drop plates have big cells that are intended to take 2 or 3 seeds each time the cell fills up. That way the seeds drop in groups of 2 or 3. You may have noticed that the hill drop plates usually have fewer cells than the other plates. That way hills are farther apart than drilled seed.

[Brandon Webb]

Ok, Sorry about that I meant 1970A. It says alternating 2 and 3 drop. I understand now, the more cells the closer the they drop to each other. Hill drop plates like the 1979A drop several seeds in each hole? Thanks Brandon.

[Larry in IN]

Jim & guys -
I'm not familiar with the planter in question, but the multi-row planters that we are familiar with have a system of sprockets that make it possible to vary the speed of the planter plate rotation.
Varying that speed and the number of cells in the plate allow for a great variation in seed spacing within the row.

Brandon - does that special Richmond hopper manual address this subject?

Hope I haven't confused the subject too much

Larry