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Hydraulic Pump

Postby new2cub » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:28 pm

My little 48' Cub doesn't have hydraulics on it. I was wanting everyones input on what type of pump to put on it. I am wanting to eventually make a 3 pt set-up on it. Plus I have thought alot about putting a hydraulic cylinder on my blade to turn it, and maybe even a single arm loader for light landscape work. Will a factory set-up power this or should I consider an aftermarket pump mounted to my PTO shaft and use the factory spot for a reservoir for fluid.

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Postby Bigdog » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:35 pm

I think you'll find the standard touch control hydraulic system quite handy for your needs.
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Postby 400lbsonacubseatspring » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:57 pm

New2cub....

My 48 uses the standard factory "pump", but has a large reservoir where the conventional touch control would be. It has a 2" cylinder that controls the "lifts", and an adjustable relief valve. The system is robust, and a little stronger than the conventional touch control. It would also lend itself well to expansion.

The factory pump is a little slow, but is certainly robust enough to do pretty much whatever you need.

If you want an "easy" option, you could pick up a complete touch control kit from Ralph's Cubs, a link to which you will find at the bottom of most pages here on this site.

If you like to "Tinker".... you might want to build your own, using the Cub factory pump as a starting point.

The reason I am speaking in favour of this option, is that since I now have 2 cubs, one of which has the standard touch control, and the other has this customized system, I much prefer the "custom" hydraulics of my '48.

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Postby George Willer » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:17 pm

Bigdog wrote:I think you'll find the standard touch control hydraulic system quite handy for your needs.


This is especially true when most any other source of hydraulic pressure gives up the "live" pressure of the original pump. Having several tractors that don't have live hydraulics I value "live" very much.

A hydraulic pump that is driven from south of the tractor's clutch is a bummer! :(
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Hydralics

Postby new2cub » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:32 pm

Hey Tom thanks for the reply. I was wondering if you could give me some more specs on using the factory pump. What type of control valve,what size of tank, etc.. :?:

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Postby 400lbsonacubseatspring » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:47 pm

The tank that's on mine is about 2 gallons, give or take.

The valve is an open center, 2 direction valve, that returns to center via springs........ The cylinder is a single directional one, with gravity doing the work of dropping the lifts.

Lemme see if I can find the pics that I have of it....



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A few modifications I've had to do to it, since these pics were taken...

Some of the 1/4" copper lines have had to be replaced with hoses. I SHOULD replace all of them. The pre-made hoses you can get from various catalog sources would do fine, and certainly are cheap enough.

The old hand-lift quadrant has a dimple-stop at the rear. That had to be ground off to allow the plows to drop far enough.

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Postby cowboy » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:18 am

Wow Tom thats 8)

While a lot of peaple do not like a cub not having a standard 3 point hitch. I have noticed the cub can do a lot of jobs better with its rock shaft system. I was trying to figure out a way to put a grader blade on a 265 massy and it was turning into a headake. But you system woul make it a lot easier. Although I sidesteped the problem by getting him to buy a farmall 100.

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Postby 400lbsonacubseatspring » Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:01 pm

New2cub,

Aside from picking up a hydraulic pump, which you can do from Ralph's cubs, or JP salvage, below, you can pick up a lot of bits and pieces from surpluscenter, which you can find links to in this other thread here, provided by Matt.

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16934

You might want to check with a few other folks, like Northern tool, and for some used stuff on Ebay, but as a baseline low price, these guys are pretty good. Matt Kirsch and Rick Prentice (our resident CAN-DO specialist) swear by their prices.....


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