ih 1000 , its on but wont work

[brian kov]

i dont know what i am doing wrong all the hoses are hooked up properly , and today when i went otu to look and see if i could do any thing i noticed a steady drip coming from the return line where it goes into the hydraulic manifold ,probably cause i couldnt find the right fitting and had to settle for a plastic one with the wrong threads they were pipe threads instead of bolt type threads ,i didnt think that would be a big problem as that is the return line and i think it is not under pressure . so i started the cub up and it shut off almost immediately , twice . i figured the hyd pump was putting a load on a cold motor , the 3rd time it stayed running but started making a noise kindof like rappin or a little piston trying to pump to no avail . i dont have any ideas and would really like to try this thing out and get the cub back under roof before it starts to monsoon again , the lil jobs i have for it are startin to pile up

[Rudi]

Brian:

The best I can do is point you to the IH 1000 Loader Operator's Manual.

I do not have a service manual for it, unfortuantely.

Now, as far as my feeble brain will carry this... but:

You wrote:

today when i went otu to look and see if i could do any thing i noticed a steady drip coming from the return line where it goes into the hydraulic manifold ,probably cause i couldnt find the right fitting and had to settle for a plastic one with the wrong threads they were pipe threads instead of bolt type threads ,i didnt think that would be a big problem as that is the return line and i think it is not under pressure .

I admittedly know diddley squat about hydraulics aside from what I have observed using the Massey 1020 with the Allied Loader on it.. and various other hydraulically powered equipment such as dozers and loaders..

The drip most definitely would be because of the stated mis-match of the threads. Hydraulic fittings from what I understand are all under pressure of some sort, and must use the correct certified hydraulic type parts. Therefore, it would make some sense to me, that a plastic fitting with the wrong thread would be the root cause.

The second concern I would have would be the amount of hydraulic or Touch Control Fluid you have in the system. When you mount up the loader, I am assuming that the increase in the hose length, translates to an equivalent drop in pressure due to the extra fluid being stored in the hoses... does this make sense Does the system need an auxillary reservoir

So to solve the problem I would first get the correct fittings. No sense even trying to rinkydink it.. that is an accident waiting to happen. The second thing I would do is check the level in the reservoir after you have redone the fitting and tried the loader. You may find that you will have to add some fluid... (I may be way off base on this.. but it just sort of makes a little bit of sense to me....)

I hope this random prattling is of some use to you..

[evielboweviel]

Rudi
the resivour is in the main post the loader arem bolts to. Under the valve body. If the connection to the hydraulics on the tractor is leaking then air will get sucked in to the hydraulic swystem and it won't work very good
Ron

[brian kov]

the leaking spot is where the big hose goes into the filler hole for the hyd. rockshaft area , the loader doesnt even try to move .

[evielboweviel]

you have a couple of different problems.
1.-you need to fix that leak as it will cause you problems when you get the main problem worked out.
2.- not certain about your main problem however it is looking like a tearddown of the pump and resivour may have to be done to find the problem.
3.- you could try undoing all of the hydraulic changes and see if the tracotr works ok then
Good luck
Ron

[WKPoor]

Brian, your desciption of the engine emediatly shutting down sounds like maybe a your not plumbed right possibly with a dead ended pump or serious restriction.

I have the fitting you need to return your fluid into the touch control. I think Earl must be the only guy in the country making this fitting. PM for purchase details if you like.

[brian kov]

i had the supply hose in the returnn line position on the hyd. manifold ,, never do that , thats what caused the noise now i have BIG problems . it caused the hyd. pump shaft to snap and the gear that comes off the front of the motor has about 4 inches worth of teeth ground down and missing completely . now i guess the whole front of the motor needs taken apart to replace that gear and pull the oil pand to remove all of the debris and get a new shaft for the pump or replace the whole pump . i really did not need this but then again how much do we ever need this stuff to happen , i was putting this loader on to try and take a lil slack left by the bobcat from last week i think it spun a rod bearing and now that needs fixed also . in the middle of trying to get my barn built in time for my wedding reception on aug 26 , the picture in the manual makes it out to look like the supply hose goes on the bottom line hook up but it deffinately goes on the top hook up .i guess it caused a lot of back pressure on the pump and caused it to stop and strip those gears

[Dale51]

Sorry to hear what happened.
But it is repairable though might be pricey and time consuming.

[Bus Driver]

After the broken parts are replaced, change the engine oil and filter. Then do the change again soon thereafter.

[brian kov]

will do that , thanx for the tip bus driver

[Rudi]

Brian:

Real sorry to hear that.. bad luck..

But as my better half always says: When ya get lemons, make lemonade

Take pics as you go if you can. This sounds like an excellent winter project to document.. and you will certainly help others from making the same boo boo...

Again, I feel for ya.. truly do

[allenlook]

Sorry to hear that Brian - I was worried from your original post that's what it was

[400lbsonacubseatspring]

Brian,

Pictures:
photos and diagrams......have a way of doing that to you.....

The best advice an uncle ever gave me was to think of hydraulics not as plumbing, but as wiring. The fluid being the electricity.....it needs a circuit to complete, with a cylinder sometimes acting as a battery(more appropriately a capacitor) to store it, it still needs to be able to complete its circuit eventually.

When a hydraulic system starts getting a little complex, thinking of it in that way helps sort it all out mentally.

I'm sorry this happened, but working from diagrams and photos can do that to anyone......so don't beat yourself up over it.

--Tom

[brian kov]

just got back from picking up the parts to fix the mess , now i just have to get it ripped apart and put back together

[rondellh]

Brian,
I would still remove the oil pan and clean it out. Also I would flush some solvent down through the front cover to wash any contaminants out.
The Cub engine uses a bypass filtration method so foreign material could still make it to your bearings if it were pulled up into the oil pump pick up and got past the screen.

Rondell