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Postby Stan's Cub » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:29 pm

new guy here with a '54 that my uncle just gave me. got it running today after it has sat for close to 5 years. went through ignition system and cleaned important contacts and made sure I had spark before reassembling tank/hood. drained and cleaned tank, sediment bowl, line, carb screen, and made sure that brass bolt/jet thing on side of carb was clear by removing and running carb cleaner through it. got it all back together and it started right up with only a few cranks, smooth little engines they are. now that you are bored to tears, I have a question. is there a better way to run the cable from the battery to the starter? from clutch pedal friction the insulation is history and the end at the battery has an unacceptable cob job of an end on it. I plan on replacing it tomorrow and was wondering if you guys do something different to prevent the cable for being damaged by clutch. oh, it's supposed to connect to the negative and go to starter, right? sorry for the rant. thanks for any help!
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Postby Bigdog » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:41 pm

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Postby rick 48 cub » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:42 pm

Hi Stan - You found an awsome site.

I got a little carried away in the battery cable dept. I ran both pos and neg cables from the starter, over the hydraulics, and around the opposite side of the torque tube (side opposite the clutch pedal). I then ran the cables under the torque tube and up through the footrest to the battery box. I used heavy plastic "zip ties" to hold everything tightly and neatly in place.

I soldered on a lug to the end of the positive wire, and bolted it under the top bolt that holds the starter to the bell housing.

I used heavy welding wire for the battery cables. The welding cable had finer wires inside the insulation. Apparently, the smaller diameter wire - with the same overall diameter - is more efficient at carrying the current. I do not remember the gage of the cables I used - but it was the same or heavier than the original.

I went with two cables because the starter never had enough umph to really spin the engine. I feel that I correctly deduced that I had a bad ground through the frame of the tractor.

Anyhow - it starts with great vigor now.

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Postby George Willer » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:44 pm

Chad,

There should be a sheet metal guard over the cable to protect it. If you don't have it, you can see the hole in the instrument panel where it should be bolted. You may have to have the cable made up special... it should be #2 or heavier and 84" long. I make mine from 00 cable, 3 sizes heavier.

The clutch pedal does run closer to the torque tube than it has to. I've taken to bending the pedal away and then straightening it so the upper ends of all 3 pedals line up nicely. Pipe wrenches are the tool of choice. So far, I haven't been cited by the correct police.

You're right, negative goes to the starter switch.
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Postby Stan's Cub » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:04 pm

you guys are great, fast too! many thanks to all! the metal guard is there but doesn't seem to help much, cable is still beat up pretty bad. the pics from Bigdog seem like the simplest way to do it with the stock routing modified a bit by running under the clutch stop instead of over it. the flat braided cable is a good idea too and looks much neater than stock.

thanks again!
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Postby Rudi » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:13 pm

Chad:

First, Image to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met :!: :D

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I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub.


Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These are intended to complement the businesses who support FarmallCub.com Website.

I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better is you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.

IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's :?: . Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are two must have's in anyone's collection.

In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.

I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, Image to the Cub FamilyImage :D
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Postby Stan's Cub » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:29 pm

Rudi, thanks for the warm welcome. my wife's dad and uncle recently handed down to me the Cub that was originally her grandfather's, Stanley. my screen name is a tribute to him, although I never met him, I have heard many wonderful stories about him. many in my wife's family learned to drive on this Cub and I hope my two boys do the same . it's a legacy worth my time and effort.
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Postby Rudi » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:31 pm

Chad:

Boy do you got that one RIGHT :!: :idea: :!: :D
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Postby 'Country' Elliott » Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:48 am

Hey "Stan's Cub"...CUBGRATULATIONS on preserving a part of your Families heritage! :D Now dig through all those old black & white family photos...I'll bet that somewhere, someone has a photo of Stanley working on his Cub! Once you find that...you've placed the original owner and his Cub together for all time, and for your sons to enjoy too! :wink:
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Postby Jeff Silvey » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:48 am

Chad:
I like what you said about your boys.
One other thing can we say your time will be PRICELESS :D 8) :wink:
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Postby Peter Person » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:22 am

Chad,
Western, MA?
Put October 13, 14, & 15 on your calendar for CubFest Northeast in Valatie, NY
I bought my '57 Cub in Wibraham, MA, he bought it from the original owner in Southwick, MA.
Have two boys myself that I hope find satisfaction in working with their Dad on an old tractor.
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Postby DuxburyFarmall » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:49 am

Chad,

Welcome to the greatest form on the web.

You can't ask for a better group of people then who is on this board.

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Postby Ron L » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:42 am

Chad. Another welcome to the board ........ :D

Now..... Learn to post pictures so we can have a look see! :wink: PLUS .... if you ever do come up with some old pictures, as Country suggested, we would love to see those, also .... :D
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Postby Buzzard Wing » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:06 pm

Welcome! I second the motion on the trip to Cecil's CubFest in Oct... it will be great!

I know RI is small, but I am still the only one down here.... what's up with that??
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Postby Jeff M » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:32 pm

Welcome, Chad! You'll find this is as good a site as you've ever visited--no need to have the asbestos suit on hand. You're very lucky to have a close family connection with your Cub--makes it that much more special indeed. Enjoy!
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