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1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
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1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Full disclosure, this post is my second by which I'm hoping to get access to the manuals to hopefully read how to install the single point fast hitch I just bought. However, I'd be grateful for any other suggestions or pointers to resources to help install it correctly. I just bought several single point fast hitch implements (plow, disc cultivator, and harrow) and am hoping to help work some ground for a small community garden soon. Thanks for all.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
WOW! That "manuals" section is INSANE! I wish the forums for my other "Vintage Technology" vehicles and tools were half as amazing as that!! I am stoked to dig into what I just downloaded!
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
FYI... Another good resource is TM Tractors (a forum sponsor) with a link below. They have good parts and check out their link to implements and their photo gallery along the left margin:
http://www.tmtractor.com/
http://www.tmtractor.com/
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
1st think is to make sure you have all the pieces for it
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Hi,
The Cub looks good in your picture.
You can find the year of it using the tractor serial number, if you didn't do it that way.
There is a list of serial numbers and years at the top of the page at Cub Info.
If you are putting a Fast Hitch on the Cub, you will need to remove the rotary mower first.
The rotary mower you have won't work with a Fast Hitch. The drive mechanism at the rear is different for a Fast Hitch Cub.
The parts you have fit only a Cub with a drawbar. Woods had different parts for use with a Fast Hitch.
I think the mower part of it is the same with a Fast Hitch, but I'm not sure.
When you remove the mower and drawbar, it is a good time to check the final drive oil levels.
There are 2 final drives. There is a plug on each final drive.
The left plug is behind the drawbar mounting bracket. Fill both final drives to the level of the plug holes. The plugs usually have a square hole, a ratchet with no socket usually fits them. Clean any dirt out of the square holes, so the ratchet goes fully into the plugs.
The operator's manual tells how to check or change the oils.
The transmission and final drives on that age of Cub use Case IH Hy-Tran fluid, it is sold at Case IH dealers. There are other brands, be sure it works with IH hydraulic systems before buying it, since the fluid can be used in the Touch Control also.
I sent you a PM, you get to it at the top of the page.
The Cub looks good in your picture.
You can find the year of it using the tractor serial number, if you didn't do it that way.
There is a list of serial numbers and years at the top of the page at Cub Info.
If you are putting a Fast Hitch on the Cub, you will need to remove the rotary mower first.
The rotary mower you have won't work with a Fast Hitch. The drive mechanism at the rear is different for a Fast Hitch Cub.
The parts you have fit only a Cub with a drawbar. Woods had different parts for use with a Fast Hitch.
I think the mower part of it is the same with a Fast Hitch, but I'm not sure.
When you remove the mower and drawbar, it is a good time to check the final drive oil levels.
There are 2 final drives. There is a plug on each final drive.
The left plug is behind the drawbar mounting bracket. Fill both final drives to the level of the plug holes. The plugs usually have a square hole, a ratchet with no socket usually fits them. Clean any dirt out of the square holes, so the ratchet goes fully into the plugs.
The operator's manual tells how to check or change the oils.
The transmission and final drives on that age of Cub use Case IH Hy-Tran fluid, it is sold at Case IH dealers. There are other brands, be sure it works with IH hydraulic systems before buying it, since the fluid can be used in the Touch Control also.
I sent you a PM, you get to it at the top of the page.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
lakesurfer wrote: However, I'd be grateful for any other suggestions or pointers to resources to help install it correctly.
Below are pages from the Cub and LoBoy parts manual showing the parts of the Fast Hitch. You can check what you have and see if it is all there, like tst said above.
The page below shows the helper spring, it goes on the left side of the Cub, and attaches to the short arm on the left side of the Touch Control rockshaft.
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... 009-04.jpg
You will need to buy bolts to hold the brackets onto the final drives, if you don't have them. It tells the size and length of them below at the descriptions for numbers 3 and 10 in the pic. They should be regular bolts, with lock washers, not the IH tapered head bolts. The dealer sold me grade 5 bolts for it in the past.
There are 2 different bales shown. A cub the year of yours should have a Fast Hitch with a crank to the right of the seat. That is the depth adjustment. The hitches had a lever from about 1954 - 1957.
The brackets on the bales are different.
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... 009-05.jpg
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... 009-06.jpg
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... 009-07.jpg
The bolts for holding the crank onto the final drive are shown at 9 on the page below.
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... 009-08.jpg
I use a large punch in holes of the right and left brackets, to help hold the hitch up in position, after lifting it up, to put the bolts in.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Once you determine the parts needed to use the mower with a FH, you can place a Wanted add in the VINE, Classified subforum. Someone might have one for sale. I've successfully bought some needed mower drive parts using that method. JMHO Stan
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Don't forget your Son in law as a resource at installation time.
He knows his way around your Cub and some of it's quirks.
Congrats. Stay patient with the getting it prepped. And when switching things over .
He knows his way around your Cub and some of it's quirks.
Congrats. Stay patient with the getting it prepped. And when switching things over .
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
I'd be surprised if you found concise step-by-step instructions. If these were installed outside of the factory they were almost always installed at the IH dealership by an experienced mechanic or someone who had access to an experienced mechanic for guidance. Instructions were probably along the lines of "Step 1. Install Fast Hitch. Step 2. Return tractor to customer."
Installing is a bit awkward because it all needs to go on pretty much as one piece. The side plates, bail, and rockshaft have to be all together at least because once the side plates are bolted to the final drives, you can't install anything that isn't already installed. You also can't lift one side into place then the other. Both sides need to be brought up into position at the same time. Some help or creative use of ratchet straps is required to hold things somewhere near where they should be until you can get at least one bolt in each side.
Really it's not that complicated, just awkward. Look at the pictures. Look at what you have. Make what you have look like the pictures.
Installing is a bit awkward because it all needs to go on pretty much as one piece. The side plates, bail, and rockshaft have to be all together at least because once the side plates are bolted to the final drives, you can't install anything that isn't already installed. You also can't lift one side into place then the other. Both sides need to be brought up into position at the same time. Some help or creative use of ratchet straps is required to hold things somewhere near where they should be until you can get at least one bolt in each side.
Really it's not that complicated, just awkward. Look at the pictures. Look at what you have. Make what you have look like the pictures.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Matt is correct. Those three pieces have to be installed as a unit. BUT, everything else can be removed and installed later to reduce the weight that needs to be supported. The pull bar is especially heavy.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
You may already have discovered or know this, but a regular FCub FH is different from a Cub LoBoy FH and they must be used on the tractor that they were designed to fit.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Thanks to all. Got it installed, and used it Saturday to plow and disc a good sized garden. Discovered that as a newbie to this stuff, I think I got a little taken advantage of though. The draw bar did not match up to the depth adjust lever linkage. After looking at the drawings closer, I see that the depth lever attaches to a slightly different draw bar. No sweat...I was able to use "improvised engineering" to adapt an acceptable solution. What really torqued me off was that I discovered the sleeve over the horizontal bar at the hitch itself was supposed to adjust right/left. Not only is mine seized in place, but now I notice that the horizontal bar itself is *bent* on the left side. Once I feel I'm "done for the season" I'll remove that and take it to a friend's house to apply some "persuasion".
Shame on me for not knowing exactly what I was buying. Fool me once......
Shame on me for not knowing exactly what I was buying. Fool me once......
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Not sure what you mean when you use the term “drawbar”. But, the Fast Hitch does not use the drawbar pictured below. Perhaps some photos of your setup would help.
Photo courtesy TM Tractor Parts
Photo courtesy TM Tractor Parts
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Lets see a picture of the "bent" horizontal bar to make sure some of the bend doesn't belong there.
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Re: 1-point Fast Hitch for Cub - Installation
Don and Jim, Apologies. Language matters and I am still learning tractor vocabulary:
The depth lever needs a different *hitch bail* than the one I was provided. As far as the bent rod at the rear of the tractor near the hitch itself, I could not find a name for it, but the Pull Bar can be adjusted back and forth on it via the "sleeve" that is part of the hitch. I attached three pics. One showing the bent rod. One showing the depth lever attached to the hitch bail, and a closeup of the alternative engineering solution I used to make the offset lever linkage work with the hitch bail I have.
The depth lever needs a different *hitch bail* than the one I was provided. As far as the bent rod at the rear of the tractor near the hitch itself, I could not find a name for it, but the Pull Bar can be adjusted back and forth on it via the "sleeve" that is part of the hitch. I attached three pics. One showing the bent rod. One showing the depth lever attached to the hitch bail, and a closeup of the alternative engineering solution I used to make the offset lever linkage work with the hitch bail I have.
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