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Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Really nice looking.
Find the maintenance manual and grease every zerk. Oil the fan hub. Make sure the final pans have lube in them. Top off fluids and put her to work.
I’ve had one of these in the family for 53 years now. Keep them oiled and watered and they will literally last a lifetime.
Find the maintenance manual and grease every zerk. Oil the fan hub. Make sure the final pans have lube in them. Top off fluids and put her to work.
I’ve had one of these in the family for 53 years now. Keep them oiled and watered and they will literally last a lifetime.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Cubfriend wrote:Prime the engine oil pump before starting.
Little late for that now!
They told me at the store that they started it fairly regularly and it hadn't been "just sitting". And to be fair, when they fired it up for me it came right to life. I drove it before I bought it and all went well. It's been home with me for a couple days now and I've done some light work with it. Kept an eye on the oil pressures and charging. Oil pressure has been fine. Charging is a little more problematic. I'll get to it but for now it works fine.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
ntrenn wrote:Really nice looking.
Find the maintenance manual and grease every zerk. Oil the fan hub. Make sure the final pans have lube in them. Top off fluids and put her to work.
I’ve had one of these in the family for 53 years now. Keep them oiled and watered and they will literally last a lifetime.
Yep, I'll be getting hard copies of the owners manual and service manual. Crankcase oil is great and didn't need changing. Same with radiator. Today I got the air cleaner bowl cleaned out. Had a lot of gunk in it, but overall wasn't bad. Looks like it hadn't been cleaned in quite some time. Tomorrow I'll check the final drives (not pulling the pans until I get replacement gaskets). I'll do plugs tomorrow and a new oil filter just for peace of mind.
I need to pick up a bunch of 90wt tomorrow so I can check and fill the steering box and top off the transmission/PTO if needed. Both the transmission and PTO work smoothly with no noises so I suspect the oil in them is good already. Picking up my grease gun tomorrow also. Already have the grease. So I'll give that some attention.
Thanks for chiming in with things to look at! I'm really enjoying it so far! Already moved three loads of wood in my first 2 days of ownership!
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Suggest you go ahead and drain the transmission, as even if stored indoors, it can accumulate moisture from condensation. That way you will KNOW you have the proper amount of good clean oil, and not just floating on top of water.
You may already know that it only takes 3 1/2 PINTS of gear oil. And to confirm you have the proper amount, you remove the small pipe plug down low on the left side of the transmission housing...it is full when fluid starts coming out that hole.
You may already know that it only takes 3 1/2 PINTS of gear oil. And to confirm you have the proper amount, you remove the small pipe plug down low on the left side of the transmission housing...it is full when fluid starts coming out that hole.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Dale Finch wrote:Suggest you go ahead and drain the transmission, as even if stored indoors, it can accumulate moisture from condensation. That way you will KNOW you have the proper amount of good clean oil, and not just floating on top of water.
You may already know that it only takes 3 1/2 PINTS of gear oil. And to confirm you have the proper amount, you remove the small pipe plug down low on the left side of the transmission housing...it is full when fluid starts coming out that hole.
Yep, that was my thinking. I picked up 3 quarts of 90wt today so I'd have plenty to do everything. I just changed the oil in the steering box and it had a lot of water in it. Glad I got that out of there. I hit most of the grease points. Still need to open the clutch inspection plate and get to that one. All the grease points I hit, including the one on the steering shaft had fresh grease already. I barely got two pumps in and what came out was red and clean.
I want to get that transmission oil out but I have to admit I am pretty bummed that the exhaust goes RIGHT under that level plug. Not the best engineering there. I think I have a decent solution to that issue, but still.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Don’t fret about the level plug. Just put in 3.5 pints and you’ll be good to go.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Don McCombs wrote:Don’t fret about the level plug. Just put in 3.5 pints and you’ll be good to go.
LOL! I just admitted defeat as I don't have a good way to get on that plug yet. I'll drain it in the next couple days. Had to give up on the plugs too as I don't have anything useful to get to them yet without taking the hood off.
Solvable problems, but not today.
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- Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake
Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
You should be able to get the sparkplugs out and in with a 7/8 box wrench.
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'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
To get at that transmission level pipe plug (as well as the TC drain, steering and radiator drain plugs) I use 3/8" pipe plug sockets, something like these. They work great & don't round off the edges. I've also had luck filing down the flats if the plugs have already been boigered up!
https://www.amazon.com/MIXPOWER-Pieces-8-inch-Tapered-Chamfered/dp/B09BFCVZGQ/ref=asc_df_B09BFCVZGQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532655541111&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13700018229342296355&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009672&hvtargid=pla-1456953132135&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/MIXPOWER-Pieces-8-inch-Tapered-Chamfered/dp/B09BFCVZGQ/ref=asc_df_B09BFCVZGQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532655541111&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13700018229342296355&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009672&hvtargid=pla-1456953132135&psc=1
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Don McCombs wrote:You should be able to get the sparkplugs out and in with a 7/8 box wrench.
Nope. Didn't work. I tried.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Dale Finch wrote:To get at that transmission level pipe plug (as well as the TC drain, steering and radiator drain plugs) I use 3/8" pipe plug sockets, something like these. They work great & don't round off the edges. I've also had luck filing down the flats if the plugs have already been boigered up!
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https://www.amazon.com/MIXPOWER-Pieces-8-inch-Tapered-Chamfered/dp/B09BFCVZGQ/ref=asc_df_B09BFCVZGQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532655541111&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13700018229342296355&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009672&hvtargid=pla-1456953132135&psc=1
Nice! My issue wasn't so much getting something to fit, it was literally getting onto it access wise. I finally figured out I could get onto it with a 7/16" socket connected to a universal. But my only 7/16 is 6 sided so that was a no go. I didn't have any trouble with the steering box plugs. I just used a wrench for those.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
I remove the tranny fill level plug with a small adjustable wrench. Never had a problem
Thomas
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
Hi,
The Cub looks good in your pictures.
I remove the spark plugs with the hood on, using a 7/8", 6 sided, deep socket, and a 3/8" or 1/2" drive ratchet up under the hood.
The ratchet has to go lengthwise with the engine.
Wear good leather gloves so you don't bang your hands on things.
Before removing spark plugs, clean all dirt from around their bases so it doesn't fall in the engine.
Dirt can be packed in the side you can't see from the left side of the Cub. Use a screwdriver, and run it around behind the plugs, and scrape it loose.
Compressed air will blow it out when loosened, wear your safety goggles when using the air.
I guess you meant they are so tight you couldn't get them loose with the box end wrench.
If they are that tight, the ratchet up under the hood might or might not loosen them, that is for normal conditions, when the plugs come out easily.
My Cub has the underaxle exhaust, it's not hard to remove the transmission oil level plug.
I use an 8" Crescent wrench to remove the plug.
The trans oil drain plug is at the bottom of the trans, visible from under the platform.
I would change it's oil.
Cubs commonly get water in the trans, from rain, or condensation in the housing over time.
The operator's manuals for Cubs beginning in about 1958 say to use Hy-Tran fluid in the trans and final drives.
Nowadays it is Case IH Hy-Tran fluid.
It is sold at Case IH dealers.
It is used for the Touch Control too.
There are other brands, be sure it works with IH tractors before buying one.
The manuals in Rudi's Manuals say you can use gear oil if you want in the gear housings, before serial number 248125.
They don't have every year of operator's manual there.
That is at the top of the page at Cub info.
There are more operator's manuals at Quick links, at the top of the page.
The Cub looks good in your pictures.
I remove the spark plugs with the hood on, using a 7/8", 6 sided, deep socket, and a 3/8" or 1/2" drive ratchet up under the hood.
The ratchet has to go lengthwise with the engine.
Wear good leather gloves so you don't bang your hands on things.
Before removing spark plugs, clean all dirt from around their bases so it doesn't fall in the engine.
Dirt can be packed in the side you can't see from the left side of the Cub. Use a screwdriver, and run it around behind the plugs, and scrape it loose.
Compressed air will blow it out when loosened, wear your safety goggles when using the air.
I guess you meant they are so tight you couldn't get them loose with the box end wrench.
If they are that tight, the ratchet up under the hood might or might not loosen them, that is for normal conditions, when the plugs come out easily.
My Cub has the underaxle exhaust, it's not hard to remove the transmission oil level plug.
I use an 8" Crescent wrench to remove the plug.
The trans oil drain plug is at the bottom of the trans, visible from under the platform.
I would change it's oil.
Cubs commonly get water in the trans, from rain, or condensation in the housing over time.
The operator's manuals for Cubs beginning in about 1958 say to use Hy-Tran fluid in the trans and final drives.
Nowadays it is Case IH Hy-Tran fluid.
It is sold at Case IH dealers.
It is used for the Touch Control too.
There are other brands, be sure it works with IH tractors before buying one.
The manuals in Rudi's Manuals say you can use gear oil if you want in the gear housings, before serial number 248125.
They don't have every year of operator's manual there.
That is at the top of the page at Cub info.
There are more operator's manuals at Quick links, at the top of the page.
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Re: Looking for info on a Cub in N. Florida
tmays wrote:I remove the tranny fill level plug with a small adjustable wrench. Never had a problem
It doesn't look like you have cubs with the underslung exhaust. It's is LITERALLY right in the way.
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