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Rear wheel weights

Postby Pap » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 pm

I know y'all know. How much does a rear wheel weight.. weights. I am guessing 100 to 150 pounds each.
And are they very hard to get off and back on ?
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby ntrenn » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:57 pm

About 150 lbs.
easiest way I have seen is to use an 8 foot 2x6 as a lever and a floor jack as a fulcrum..for those of us that don’t have skid steers or loaders.

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Barnyard » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:57 pm

Several mounting methods in the how to forum.
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Pap » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:43 am

Ok ... sorry I didn't think to look there.
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby NJ Farmer » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:10 am

Watch out for your fingers those bitches are heavy….wear some gloves!

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Glen » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:45 pm

Hi,
Below is a page from the 1947 Cub owner's manual telling about the wheel weights. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-56.jpg

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby tinnerjohn » Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:58 pm

I used my 2 wheeler and a 2X4, Had one end of the 2X resting on the rim and on the cart platform (the cart was laying down). I'll swear on a stack of bibles that second set weighed at least twice as much as the first set when I put them on about 13 years ago! But I also believe the 144 cultivators are a lot heavier now too. When I got them the arms and shovels were on the UMF and thats how I put them on the tractor. Now I back the nut off and put it on in pieces. Has anyone else noticed the gravitational pull getting stronger or is it a result of global warming?

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Bob McCarty » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:12 pm

tinnerjohn wrote: Has anyone else noticed the gravitational pull getting stronger or is it a result of global warming?

I also think that I must be getting taller because the ground seems to be further away when I bend over to pick something up. :D
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby tinnerjohn » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:14 pm

Thank you Bob, I've been wondering the samething

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:25 pm

The combined effect makes it harder to get down and harder to get back up. Welcome to my world.
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Gary S. » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:38 pm

Does anyone know how much a filled tire weighs? I'm to the point of no return with the rim rust and don't want to mess with the calcium chloride anymore. Just wondering how weight compares weights vs filled Thinking I'll have to make a trip down to JP some day for them and rims

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby lowgearfarm » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:11 am

"....how much a filled tire weighs?"
One could roughly calculate the additional weight of the calcium chloride mixture using "a pint a pound, world 'round" as a starting point.
A pint per pound equates to 8 pounds per gallon. A calcium chloride mix might be slightly different (less I'm guessing) but not significantly less.
The volume of mix in a single tire will vary according to how full the "filling person" fills the tire. At 3/4 full, a tire might take 20 gallons? [please correct me if you know better]. 20 gallons will weigh 160 pounds,interestingly close to a wheel weight. Perhaps that's how IH determined how fat to make their wheel weights?
Of course, this doesn't answer how much a "filled tire" weighs (tire, rim, wheel hub(?), plus mix). Best not to over think this.

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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Bill V in Md » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:08 am

Gary S. wrote:Does anyone know how much a filled tire weighs? I'm to the point of no return with the rim rust and don't want to mess with the calcium chloride anymore. Just wondering how weight compares weights vs filled Thinking I'll have to make a trip down to JP some day for them and rims

In the Cub Owner's Manual IH recommends filling the rear tire 3/4 full, as indicated by lowgearfarm's post. Below is a link to weights for tires filled 3/4 full. If you are using 8.3 x 24 rear tires, looks like the weight is approximately 130 lbs per tire. This would be consistent with a 25% solution of calcium chloride in water (1.225 SpGr), which is also recommended by IH.
http://www.andystireservice.com/ballast.htm
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:38 am

lowgearfarm wrote:"....how much a filled tire weighs?"
One could roughly calculate the additional weight of the calcium chloride mixture using "a pint a pound, world 'round" as a starting point.
A pint per pound equates to 8 pounds per gallon. A calcium chloride mix might be slightly different (less I'm guessing) but not significantly less.
The volume of mix in a single tire will vary according to how full the "filling person" fills the tire. At 3/4 full, a tire might take 20 gallons? [please correct me if you know better]. 20 gallons will weigh 160 pounds,interestingly close to a wheel weight. Perhaps that's how IH determined how fat to make their wheel weights?
Of course, this doesn't answer how much a "filled tire" weighs (tire, rim, wheel hub(?), plus mix). Best not to over think this.

Salt water is more dense than fresh water. Hence, the reason a body floats higher in salt water. I’m assuming that the properties of NaCl + water and CaCl + water would be very similar. That is one of the reasons (though not the only one) that CaCl + water is/was used to weight tires.
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Re: Rear wheel weights

Postby Don McCombs » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:52 am

I really don’t have any reason to move my weights. But, if I did, I would use George Willer’s method described below.

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