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Wont start...
So my 65 Cub that I have been using around the house for the last few years for mowing and plowing wont start. I've pretty much had it start up on the first or second crank since I got it going a few years back - and then I let my buddy borrow it to mow his overgrown lawn because his mower had broke. Aaaannnnddddd... now it doesn't start. So I got it back home and today I'm going to go through and try to figure out whats wrong and get it going again. So this is my plan of attack (in order), let me know if there is something else I should be looking at as well.
Make sure battery is charged up
Check and clean battery posts and connections
Make sure I've got correct gas flow to carb.
Check and clean spark plugs and make sure they have spark
Check rotor and points
If all that checks out then Ill probably drain the gas tank to make sure there wasn't any issues with the gas he put in it.
Note to self - don't loan out tractor again
Make sure battery is charged up
Check and clean battery posts and connections
Make sure I've got correct gas flow to carb.
Check and clean spark plugs and make sure they have spark
Check rotor and points
If all that checks out then Ill probably drain the gas tank to make sure there wasn't any issues with the gas he put in it.
Note to self - don't loan out tractor again
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Re: Wont start...
Be a little more specific...
Does nothing.
Tries, but won't turn over.
Turns over, but won't fire.
Give us a little more to help diagnose.
Does nothing.
Tries, but won't turn over.
Turns over, but won't fire.
Give us a little more to help diagnose.
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1948 Farmall Cub
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Re: Wont start...
This is what it does...
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Re: Wont start...
Well, Sounds like your battery connections are clean!
Its either no spark!
No gas!
Or no compression!
You have spark?
Fuel blockage?
Did you turn the gas on?
Worn out engine with no compression?
Good luck!
Ps, I almost NEVER click on a youtube video thats less Than a minute long!
Its either no spark!
No gas!
Or no compression!
You have spark?
Fuel blockage?
Did you turn the gas on?
Worn out engine with no compression?
Good luck!
Ps, I almost NEVER click on a youtube video thats less Than a minute long!
1968 Cub Fast-Hitch
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LF-1 Platform Carrier
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F38 Disk
L-F3 Spring Tooth Harrow
CS Bell No. 60 Grain Mill on a unmodified Fast Hitch Disk hitch prong
Home Made Fast Hitch Potato Plow
54A Blade
Couple 1948 Cubs
172 Runner Planter
53 Fertilizer
Cub-3 Field Cultivator
Cub-189 Two Way Plow
Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower
Mechanical Transplanter with side mount barrel (needs a fast hitch adapter) :)
Misc Belly Mowers
Wish List
International 100 Fast Hitch Blade
Mott Fast Hitch Flail Mower
Wish Wish Wish List
Fast Hitch Rotary Hoe
4E hammer mill - Location: Ne Ohio
Re: Wont start...
I watched the video again, and saw your key switch in the off position while you hit the starter button!
Try it again with the key in the run position!
Try it again with the key in the run position!
1968 Cub Fast-Hitch
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Re: Wont start...
Sounds like it’s spinning faster than either of mine. If that’s the case...low compression..
But...my money is on lack of spark...key not allowing power to the coil. Bad condenser. Bad coil.
If it won’t hit on starting fluid, it’s a spark issue. If it hits on starting fluid...fuel...plugged main jet??
But...my money is on lack of spark...key not allowing power to the coil. Bad condenser. Bad coil.
If it won’t hit on starting fluid, it’s a spark issue. If it hits on starting fluid...fuel...plugged main jet??
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- Cub Star
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1948 Farmall Cub
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Re: Wont start...
Well I think I found the problem... didn't hit me to check it until you said I had the key in the off position. The switch is actually in the on position in the video. Looks like somehow the ring that tightens the switch to the housing was loosened and so the entire switch got turned... picture shows the result of that on the back of the switch, looks like my buddy snapped all the wires off
I was just starting on the spark plugs, I'll go ahead and clean those up anyway and then try to reconnect the switch and see if she goes.
Thank you!
I was just starting on the spark plugs, I'll go ahead and clean those up anyway and then try to reconnect the switch and see if she goes.
Thank you!
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Re: Wont start...
they look pretty rotten to start with, switch spinning around broke the rotten connectors off
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Re: Wont start...
Dadsfarmalls wrote:Well I think I found the problem... didn't hit me to check it until you said I had the key in the off position. The switch is actually in the on position in the video. Looks like somehow the ring that tightens the switch to the housing was loosened and so the entire switch got turned... picture shows the result of that on the back of the switch, looks like my buddy snapped all the wires off
I was just starting on the spark plugs, I'll go ahead and clean those up anyway and then try to reconnect the switch and see if she goes.
Thank you!
Let us know if that does the trick...
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- Cub Star
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1948 Farmall Cub
1955 Farmall 200
1965 IH Cub
Re: Wont start...
ricky racer wrote:Let us know if that does the trick...
I will, it will be this coming weekend before I can get back at it.
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Re: Wont start...
Hi,
Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new ignition switch like a 1965 Cub came with, you can look at the pics.
I can't tell what it has in your pic, but the original has slip on connections, it looks like in the listing.
I don't know if you need a new switch.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/816fp.htm
The Cub parts manual says it needs a 365502R1, nut switch mounting, and a 375431R1, washer switch mounting. You could try buying them at Case IH, or figure out the size and buy them at a store.
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub operator's manual, showing the 12 volt dash in the upper pic.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-04.jpg
Below is a listing at TM Tractor for a new ignition switch like a 1965 Cub came with, you can look at the pics.
I can't tell what it has in your pic, but the original has slip on connections, it looks like in the listing.
I don't know if you need a new switch.
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/816fp.htm
The Cub parts manual says it needs a 365502R1, nut switch mounting, and a 375431R1, washer switch mounting. You could try buying them at Case IH, or figure out the size and buy them at a store.
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub operator's manual, showing the 12 volt dash in the upper pic.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-04.jpg
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- 501 Club
- Posts: 1853
- Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:21 pm
- Zip Code: 44410
- Tractors Owned: 1968 Cub Fast Hitch
LF-1 Platform Carrier
144 Cultivators
L-F194 Plow(s)
F38 Disk
L-F3 Spring Tooth Harrow
CS Bell No. 60 Grain Mill on a unmodified Fast Hitch Disk hitch prong
Home Made Fast Hitch Potato Plow
54A Blade
Couple 1948 Cubs
172 Runner Planter
53 Fertilizer
Cub-3 Field Cultivator
Cub-189 Two Way Plow
Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower
Mechanical Transplanter with side mount barrel (needs a fast hitch adapter) :)
Misc Belly Mowers
Wish List
International 100 Fast Hitch Blade
Mott Fast Hitch Flail Mower
Wish Wish Wish List
Fast Hitch Rotary Hoe
4E hammer mill - Location: Ne Ohio
Re: Wont start...
Ahh......
The borrower always gets the blame, whether it was their fault or not!
The borrower always gets the blame, whether it was their fault or not!
1968 Cub Fast-Hitch
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Re: Wont start...
the switch is not the factory type you have, the original has a flat spot on it so it could not spin in the hole like this one did
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