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Hay crimper

Postby JRS » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:19 pm

Can a cub with a pto revers pull a hay crimper or conditioner

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby Ky Cub » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:38 pm

...................NO...................

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby SamsFarm » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:29 pm

JRS wrote:Can a cub with a pto revers pull a hay crimper or conditioner


You talking like a New Holland 404 crimper, 7 foot width?

I would think not, but if you have the Cub, pto gear box reverser / speed reducer and a crimper, try it and see!

If I had the pto gear box reverser / speed reducer I would try it myself! :)

Be sure to let us know how it works if you hapen to give it a try!
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby JimCub48 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:21 pm

I would say no , your only dealing with 10 horses.

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby Eugene » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:31 pm

I'm in the no column.

Internet search using the make and model of the crimper will disclose the suggested tractor HP.
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 pm

Only reference I could find says 25hp+. And, of course, it would need the right sized PTO, turning in the correct direction.
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:46 am

I'd guess no, but I would also give it a try.
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:14 am

It will pull it, just fine, as long as you don't engage the PTO! I'm not sure the Cub can stand the tongue weigh, I wouldn't waste my time.

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby v w » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:21 am

Don McCombs wrote:Only reference I could find says 25hp+. And, of course, it would need the right sized PTO, turning in the correct direction.

In addition to getting the pto correct how about a howard despeeder? 25 hp just to run a crimper however may be a safe recommendation. I have run a Brillion mower/conditioner with an H. This crushed the stem the full length not just kinked it. Mowing/conditioning could be done at normal speed except when trying to put too much thru. It would then plug the conditioner and break the slip clutch loose but not bog the tractor down. Crusher conditioners fell out of favor quickly and I don't believe were made very long. It tended to plug too easy if there was large weeds found mostly in first cuttings. The mower portion was actually made by IH. The hay was run thru two smooth steel rollers. I have cut hay at 8 am and baled it at 4 pm. Vern

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:54 am

v w wrote: I have cut hay at 8 am and baled it at 4 pm. Vern


Care to tell more about that!

Was you making haylage?
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby SONNY » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:26 pm

Wont work---dont waste your time on it!

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby JRS » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:50 pm

I was talking about the #1 , #2 , or #2a used in the late 50’s you pulled behind a sickle bar mower that had a rear pto and conditioned hay on second round. But just using conditioner and no mower .there would be no tongue load it’s balanced on two wheels .i would say it only weighs around 500lbs

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Re: Hay crimper

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:10 pm

JRS wrote:I was talking about the #1 , #2 , or #2a used in the late 50’s you pulled behind a sickle bar mower that had a rear pto and conditioned hay on second round. But just using conditioner and no mower .there would be no tongue load it’s balanced on two wheels .i would say it only weighs around 500lbs



The New Holland 404 crusher was the same principal.

Do you have the pto reverser / reducer unit?

I dont have one, so I can not try it!

I think a cub (with the pto reducer reverser) could handle a two basket tedder though!

What makes you want to use a cub to pull a crusher?
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby Bob McCarty » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:05 pm

SamsFarm wrote: Do you have the pto reverser / reducer unit?

JRS wrote:Can a cub with a pto revers pull a hay crimper or conditioner
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Re: Hay crimper

Postby v w » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:11 pm

SamsFarm wrote:
v w wrote: I have cut hay at 8 am and baled it at 4 pm. Vern


Care to tell more about that!

Was you making haylage?


No. Baled hay. This is getting too far off the subject. Follow me over to Off Topic. Farming then and now.
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